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For the materials they fall from the dragon himself when you break his hearts, so it might be a good idea to bring along an acquisitor pawn that will take care of the loot while you handle the dragon.
In the picture, it's the loot from an online Ur dragon I killed by myself during the night (100% of the damages), so I got the maximum reward you can get... dont expect that much loot for participating in an online (even if you kill it during a grace period, the rewards is proportional to the % of damage you dealt to him) or doing an offline kill.
For the online version, once someone kill it, there's a grace period (around 40 minutes) during which you can kill it too and get the loot immediatey.
If you missed the grace period, next time you'll enter the chamber of lament you'll get this message:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1888275650
And of course if you killed it during a grace period, you'll have to wait for the grace period to end before it respawn.
You dont really need top tier weapons to particpate because the damage you can deal to Ur is capped. If you do more damages than the cap during the fight (before it flies away), your participation wont be taken into account.
The problem being that Ur is balanced toward the base game, not the DLC. So BBi weapons tend to be overpowered for him and can easily pass the cap.
What you need to do is pay attention to NOT go above the cap... so dont waste periapts on Ur.
but then, I'm confused. if I do "too much" damage and accidentally go over the cap, the game just voids my entire encounter and doesn't even count it and then I just wasted my time? which that woul really suck, given that there is no indicator to let you know if you hit the cap or not..so we just have to guess?
I mean, I'm pretty sure i didn't go over the cap...his health bar didn't even move.
i clung to his leg and sat there doing thousand cuts for almost the entire encounter popping liquid vims one after another with conquerors periapts and his health bar didn't even move. it felt like i didn't o anything.
and I dunno how his stats are balanced for the base game..
I was using top tier stuff from the vanilla non BBI post game, fully upgraded and dragonforged (I know I said i had 1000 attack power earlier, but i actually have 1400 with the dragon's pain daggers and 1100 with the faye whisper bow, unless are those not top tier items?)
I figured out how to go offline to fight the offline dragon and i killed him a couple of times, but I can't do it all in one go. because of how long it takes to get to each heart and the hearts all over him and the ones on the wingtips are almost impossible to hit. he keeps moving and flapping the wings. Trying to his an extremely tiny, extremely fast moving target is ridiculously frustrating.
it's like if someone handed me a piece of paper with a maze on it and told me to draw a line through the maze without touching the sides an as soon as i start drawing, they start yanking the piece of paper left and right and up and down.
I eventually got him with just repeated attempts whittling him down.
the wiki says that you can use that to measure whether you are ready for the online one, if you can't beat the offline in 1 go, then you aren't ready for the online one.
I can take off all the hearts in one go, except the 2 wingtips and usually one of the ones on the tail makes me struggle because he constantly moves his tail and raises it up to high to grab on or he immediately throws you off the moment you grab on...
I also don't quite understand how grace works.
he goes into grace until someone kills him and then that's it? only 1 person gets the prize? and with so many people, that feels like it's more of a lottery than anything else then.
but then i'm confused again, because the dragon was generation 1013 and there was that katara whatever person, has 937 kills but then someone beneath them has over 800.
so does that mean that multiple people can score a kill during any given grace period?
In the vanilla dragon forging was a ceiling of enhancement and Ur was balanced for those. I suggest using DF weapons and periapts. Or Maker's Finger.
Ur get into grace period when somebody manage to kill him.
The grace period last 40 minutes during which any other player that fight him will be able to kill him and immediately get his loot.
Once a grace period is over, any player that participated into dealing damage to him will be rewarded and the next Ur generation will spawn.
In that case the reward for the player who participated but missed the grace period will be received next time they enter the chamber of lament, with the message I linked.
Yes, if you go above the cap your participation will be null and void.
Also know that PC version of the online Ur dragon is weaker than the console version for some reasons....
Though there's a little experiment I made that confirmed me that if you kill Ur in one go from full HP to zero, the grace period start even if you obviously went above the cap....(and you get all the reward).
But that require carrying more than 30 maker's fingers in your inventory (you normally can only have 1 at a time without using cheats/glitches/bugs), or massively hacking your stats (didnt try that one, so I'm not sure).
If you got trouble hitting some part of Ur, just take a vocation with which you'll have less troubles doing it. Easiest probably are all ranged vocations, be it magical or physical.
You can very well create a grace period for yourself if you always miss them.
The method is to simply switch to a yellow vocation and do the navette between Fourni-kun and the Ur dragon.
Buy a maker's finger when at Fourni-kun, shot it when at Ur, rince and repeat untill it dies.
You got nothing better to do with your gold anyway....
Can be made less tedious if you manage to get fourni-kun to settle at cassardis inn (after Grigori...) and use the portal to the chamber of lament that appear on cassardis beach to reach Ur.
Last trick: dont waste MF trying to hit Ur's tail's heart.... shot any other heart with your MF and then, while he's staggered, grab his tail and hack at it for a while (1 or 2 thousand/hundred kisses).
Once you're done, just leave the chamber of lament and go buy another MF (to avoid to overdamage him). If you spend more than 2-3 minutes into the chamber of lament you're doing it wrong.
That way you'll progressively destroy the tail heart and wont waste any arrow trying to shot it.
P.S.:
When you kill him dont forget to go on the Ur dragon sighting thread on the forum, to tell other players that Ur is in grace period !
The Ur has a repeating animation when it lands. Wait until he leans back and roars, perfect your aim at your chosen tail heart. He will lash the tail from side to side and then he drops his front feet down to the floor.
The moment to shoot is when his front feet hit the ground.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1888392338
I was not using rarified weapons.
I had not even gone to BBI yet when i first attempted that online Ur Dragon.
I had the Dragon's Pain Daggers which is found in post game everfall, dragonforged from killing a regular plain old drake, with clout and vehemence augments.
I jumped on his leg, where a heart was , clung to it, and started popping 4 periapts and a liquid vim at a time. I held on doing hundred kisses (i guess you thought i was using BBI items because I accidentally said "thousand kisses", the upgraded attack)
and clung to him for the entire encounter, he never shook me off and in the end, I did absolutely nothing to his health bar
and YES I understand "he has so much health that you won't see the health bar go down" but i don't know how I hit the damage cap or how i'm even supposed to be able to tell when i hit the damage cap so i know when to let go and stop attacking
I'm actually 115 now...
although, that would be hilarious if I managed to get through the entire game and still only be level 14, not even sure how that's possible
but I bet someone has done it...
I see a mod in the Nexus website where a person thinks the game is so easy, they felt the need to make a mod that caps your health at 800 and your stat growth at only 1 point per level and I don't know how that person can even play in BBI when things in there can hit for over 2000 damage with while wearing post game dragonforged armors but I digressed
I guess you've met this rare glitch then, the glitch that makes Ur invulnerable.
Usually revisiting fixes it, but I'd go offline first and see if I could damage offline Ur reliably. And then would turn online.
Ha, that makes more sense now.
I killed Ur multiple times offline...still can't do it in 1 go. because of those stupid wingtips, i waste the whole encounter trying to shoot them.
but my original point of my original question seems to have gotten lost...as the question has still not been answered to my satisfaction.
the question was "when does the loot appear?"
I fought 2 rounds with the dragon and never saw any loot.
is it because I failed to break any hearts?
or did I have to wait until grace was called and then someone kills it and then the loot appears?
the wiki seems to be unclear about this. it says "the next time you enter the chamber, a cutscene plays , showing you the loot"
I have seen this cutscene play after killing the offline dragon.
someone above suggested, that I either didn't do enough damage, or i did too much damage and disqualified myself and then i went into a rant, wondering how am I even supposed to know where this "sweet spot" is, if the health bar doesn't even move.
and then how is it that someone can shoot a heart with a makers arrow, destroying it, which does millions of damage, while I was just hitting the heart with melee and didn't even break it and yet, somehow went over the cap?
a side convo which still confuses me is how grace works exactly. does the dragon go into grace and then the moment 1 person kills it, that's it, like a lottery? like whomever struck the last blow gets the credit?
or does it go into grace for a time period and then everyone who goes in there and finishes it off during this time will ALL get credit?
so, scenario.
dragon goes into grace
10 people go in at once and start fighting it. they all kill it.
player 3 manages to finish it just a little faster than the other 9 players.
they all killed it, but player 3 killed it first.
does only player 3 get the credit, or do they all get the credit?
I guess i DID have to wait until after grace was done
Should you come up with other hard question, better check wiki.
Next time you'll ask something, you'll get links to the wiki (at best).