Need some help/tips to beat the Dark Bishop

[Domenico]

It's very strong. I'm on level 77 and I'm a Fighter. My main pawn is a Ranger. The other two pawns are a Mage and a Sorcerer

Thanks everyone who will help me

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Fire is totally your bro.

Kick the flying dog in the nards just like wolfman, then wait for the LichPope to drop down, smack the hell out of him when he does. Since your're 77 I'm going to assume you have all the fighter skills and Swordnado (dragon's maw) is already equipped, which should knock him on his ass if you have gear worth a damn, thus exponentially increasing the damage thereafter, Any glowing circles should best be avoided unless you have DForged L3 gear.

[Domenico]

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

Fire is totally your bro.

Kick the flying dog in the nards just like wolfman, then wait for the LichPope to drop down, smack the hell out of him when he does. Since your're 77 I'm going to assume you have all the fighter skills and Swordnado (dragon's maw) is already equipped, which should knock him on his ass if you have gear worth a damn, thus exponentially increasing the damage thereafter, Any glowing circles should best be avoided unless you have DForged L3 gear.

Understood, thanks much!

[Lucifer69]

MK is pretty much BBI's kryptonite if built right. You can stun lock everything to death, ironically even Death.

As a fighter dragons maw is really your only option. Pray it knocks him down and beat on him.

[skyfriday]

silence HIm.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

MK is pretty much BBI's kryptonite if built right. You can stun lock everything to death, ironically even Death.

As a fighter dragons maw is really your only option. Pray it knocks him down and beat on him.

You probably never tried Antler Toss. This one may not be literal dragon killer but will knock them down more effectively than any skill you can come up with (provided you can aim it right, which may be problematic with the softlock the game imposes on you). And definitely you can hit their heart more consistently with this skill than with Maw.
Tested on everything, from Drake to Cursed Dragon, can't live without it even as Mystic Knight.

[Grey Lensman]

Give your ranger a rusty bow and silence arrows, usually works wonders.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

MK is pretty much BBI's kryptonite if built right. You can stun lock everything to death, ironically even Death.

As a fighter dragons maw is really your only option. Pray it knocks him down and beat on him.

You probably never tried Antler Toss. This one may not be literal dragon killer but will knock them down more effectively than any skill you can come up with (provided you can aim it right, which may be problematic with the softlock the game imposes on you). And definitely you can hit their heart more consistently with this skill than with Maw.
Tested on everything, from Drake to Cursed Dragon, can't live without it even as Mystic Knight.

he isnt wrong tough. my balanced MK build can down this boss without the bishop beeing able to cast 1 spell before its dead. the dragon doesnt get 1 attack out either.

all i do is literally put down 2 GCs and then spam full moon slash. kills him in less than 60 seconds and this is without useing periapts (they would just be total overkill on this guy) and this is purely solo. no pawns used.

MK is the one of the 2 best vocations for BBI. the other beeing magic archer. (this excludes blast arrows cheesing everything of course but that is for noobs)

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

he isnt wrong tough. my balanced MK build can down this boss without the bishop beeing able to cast 1 spell before its dead. the dragon doesnt get 1 attack out either.


MK is the one of the 2 best vocations for BBI. the other beeing magic archer. (this excludes blast arrows cheesing everything of course but that is for noobs)

1. I meant Fighter. Dragon's Maw has characteristic pattern of swings, they not necessarily hit high enough to obliterate dragons.
2. Some would say that overall playing as Magick Archer is the definition of noob play;)
But not me. As long as something works it's not cheap or "for noobs". MA has his OP Rebalancer, other bowmen have their special arrows, it's all legit.

[Lucifer69]

It's a lot of personal preference too but BBI as a fighter will be rough. Dragons maw and if you can get antlers toss to work.

Mystic knight also has the best combination in the game. Place a ruinous and vortex sigil close together and watch what happens. Hehehe.

[Nerevar]

well the magic rebalancer is basically just free magic periapts. so everyone has access to them. while blast arrows are not available to everyone. big difference there. should not compare these 2 things therefore.

fact of the matter remains that blast arrow cheese is definitly easy mode. but most bow vocations are easier to play than most melees by default so there is that atleast.

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

Do pawns use speciality arrows on the Dark Bishop? I know cursed dragons are a bit of a crap shoot. I have had some pawns use them but most often not. I have never figured out why.

If you are going to play fighter, it might be a good idea to get a Golden Sword and or Rusted Shield. That way you can silence and torpor enemies somewhat at will. At least as long as you can hit them.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

well the magic rebalancer is basically just free magic periapts. so everyone has access to them. while blast arrows are not available to everyone. big difference there. should not compare these 2 things therefore.

fact of the matter remains that blast arrow cheese is definitly easy mode. but most bow vocations are easier to play than most melees by default so there is that atleast.

Blast Arrow (and Periapt) weight a bit, qute a bit I'd say. And run out pretty quick. And it's not like periapts and Blast Arrows grow on trees, you need to hoard them first. Rebalancer is just the skill, it runs on Stamina like all skills, always ready to be used.
Also, Rebalancer is a group buff (and debuff against undead) and offers protection, and is the only damage buff skill that can be stacked.
And that's just one skill. All the MA setup basically screams "I'm ranged so I can cheese, I'm magick so I need no aiming, timing or range attention. I'm a noob friendly Vocation" ;)

Originally posted by Fredericks of Cursewood:

Do pawns use speciality arrows on the Dark Bishop? I know cursed dragons are a bit of a crap shoot. I have had some pawns use them but most often not. I have never figured out why.

1. If there is a Bestiary knowledge regarding Silencing the Bishop then Pawns will do it.
2. You are not fighting Cursed Dragon just pet Cursed Dragon, it's terribly weak in comparison, it dies from a single HFB from a decent Gold Rerefied Gransys staff.

[Lucifer69]

Meh. MK just drops two cannons and two sigils and everything gets auto attacked to death, and whatever gets close is stagger locked until it dies. Then there's stone jungle. It can knock just about every monster in the game on its arse.

Don't get me wrong, MA is very powerful but MA doesn't have the ability to auto attack/ auto win, and setup a devastating choke.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

Don't get me wrong, MA is very powerful but MA doesn't have the ability to auto attack/ auto win, and setup a devastating choke.

Yeah, he can barely half-auto attack ;)
But who needs that when one can attack from distance benefiting from out-of-battle stance bonus damage? And since MA uses magick there's no range penalty.
Also, MA also has certain degree of area denial: Explo-rivets may act like land mines, and there is Vortex Trail too.
MK may be the king of teritorial Vocations but MA is the king of cheese ;)

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

well the magic rebalancer is basically just free magic periapts. so everyone has access to them. while blast arrows are not available to everyone. big difference there. should not compare these 2 things therefore.

fact of the matter remains that blast arrow cheese is definitly easy mode. but most bow vocations are easier to play than most melees by default so there is that atleast.

Blast Arrow (and Periapt) weight a bit, qute a bit I'd say. And run out pretty quick. And it's not like periapts and Blast Arrows grow on trees, you need to hoard them first. Rebalancer is just the skill, it runs on Stamina like all skills, always ready to be used.
Also, Rebalancer is a group buff (and debuff against undead) and offers protection, and is the only damage buff skill that can be stacked.
And that's just one skill. All the MA setup basically screams "I'm ranged so I can cheese, I'm magick so I need no aiming, timing or range attention. I'm a noob friendly Vocation" ;)

Originally posted by Fredericks of Cursewood:

Do pawns use speciality arrows on the Dark Bishop? I know cursed dragons are a bit of a crap shoot. I have had some pawns use them but most often not. I have never figured out why.

1. If there is a Bestiary knowledge regarding Silencing the Bishop then Pawns will do it.
2. You are not fighting Cursed Dragon just pet Cursed Dragon, it's terribly weak in comparison, it dies from a single HFB from a decent Gold Rerefied Gransys staff.

well you have a point on the weight for blast arrows. but periapts? eh. they weight not much. and you can get unlimted amounts from that guy in gran soren and money is not an issue once you farm BBI. i could basically periapt my mk for the whole run without running out and without beeing grossly overweighted aswell if i wanted.

sure you can sustain magic rebalancer out of boss fights maybe. but for normal enemies its kinda of overkill to use buffs like these. atleast i didnt bother much with useing periapts on anything but some dragons and bosses/death. for the rest it just feels like a waste of time buffing yourself up.

but yeah. ranged attackers are kinda cheesy in generel. hence why i like MK more. you do have the option to ranged attack if needed but dont have to do so to be effective.