Curious about special arrows

[eyeC]

Do you carry any of these? There are so many different types, that I just ignore them. I ignore them because to carry some of each would be too much weight, and I don't have any feel for how I might prioritize them. Blast arrows sound good, but they're heavy ... are they anything like throwblasts?

Just looking for feedback on what others do regarding special arrows.

[zadymek]

I carry some, or ingredients for those heavier. Generally different arrows are useful for different enemies.
Goblins are weak to Poison - like very, very, very weak. But I don't need Poison ones as I got Rusted bow. But Sleeper, Silencer and Blinder are always handy, 30 of each just in case is enough, especially with a Morbidity Augment.

Also I carry a single Oil Arrow to make a Flask of Oil out of it ;)

[omed_86]

I used to carry a lot of those when I was lower level. Save for blast arrows, they didn't make a huge difference for me, but they did help. Used them all on bigger enemies.

I also stuck up on a lot of mushrooms and Liquid Vim... Mmmm love me some Liquid Vim :P So I can spam that skill that allows you to shoot multiple arrows at a time, and that is I think where special arows are most useful, as the game says that itself I believe.

Originally posted by zadymek:

Also I carry a single Oil Arrow to make a Flask of Oil out of it ;)

You'd think a flask carries a bit more oil than an arrow would XD But that is a handy trick!

[Karathrax]

Oil arrows actually have one sort of secret benefit-- they turn into flame arrows when buffed with a Fire enchantment. This makes them the poor/small Arisen's blast arrow. And they're both lightweight and cheap, great for Gransys.

[Halcyform]

If you want to cheese content (think big stuff like mini bosses/bosses), then load up on blast arrows. You'll murder just about anything in a short period of time. I think people usually pair them with those damage buff consumables (periapts) that you occasionally pick up in BBI.

I never bothered trying, but I guess with the periapt, blast arrows and ranger multi arrow skill, you can burn through death before he teleports away.

When you become more familiar with BBI, if using magic archer, just prebuff multiple times with magic rebalancer and it'll significantly increase your party's damage output temporarily. You'll usually be able to tear through most enemies on first charge. You can get death down to about two bubbles before buff wears off and then he teleports away. He'll be dead when he pops again.

My toon is slightly towards a more balanced build. If he was more of a glass canon, then he could probably burn him on first go around.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Karathrax:

Oil arrows actually have one sort of secret benefit-- they turn into flame arrows when buffed with a Fire enchantment. This makes them the poor/small Arisen's blast arrow. And they're both lightweight and cheap, great for Gransys.

Having synergy stuff like this makes games even more fun to play around with. Thanks for tip. I never bothered with the special arrows.

[Scrubwave]

Blast Arrows for BBI.

[eyeC]

These are all great comments. Thanks, guys! I just used my first blast arrows. Only had 10, and I used them all with two pentad shots. One dead cyclops.

EDIT: In NG+, it's difficult to judge how well you're doing, since enemies don't scale. Still, NG+ is a lot more fun than I expected it to be.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Boomer:

These are all great comments. Thanks, guys! I just used my first blast arrows. Only had 10, and I used them all with two pentad shots. One dead cyclops.

Now
As awesome they may be, Blast arrows weight 10-20 times more than usual special arrows. So, to base a "campaign" on them you'd need to carry idk, 100? So, you better use them more tactically and spare for solving some serious problems, like Drake, Hydra, raging Ogre/Chimera, or instakilling ghosts.

Cyclopes definitely aren't "blast-arrows-worthy" as you can make them fall even when unarmed...

[eyeC]

I got that, and thanks. Was just what I had and wanted to experiment. I'll also need to get in tune with weights of components vs weight of product. From what someone else said, I'm assuming I can save weight by carrying components, at least in some cases. The crafting system is just starting to come into focus. Didn't do any during NG 0.

edit: also got the Friends reference

[frogtown1]

Maker's Finger to give Death a taste of his own.

[The Wrath of Santa]

I play as a ranger and can say that when blast arrows are used with the Revenant Wail Longbow, Tenfold Flurry and four Conqueror's Periapt they'll blow most things away in seconds including Death (Living Armor and other spectral opponents are a bit more troublesome). They're good for big beasties, not good for Spooks.

However, when training pawns (Bestiary stars) it may be advisable to refrain from Blast arrow use (particulary at low early game levels) as finishing an opponent too quickly will not give a pawn an opportunity to "learn"the stars.

They shouldn't be wasted on low level Gransys mobs instead they should be saved for Bitterblack Isle. At Bitterblack, Blast arrows combined with Conqueror's Periapt can stunlock Death stopping him escaping by continually knocking him down allowing you to finish him in one encounter.

At higher Arisen/Pawn levels in BBI a well chosen party can easily carry 500+ arrows and a good number of Conq Periapts. Johann's pawn "Alban" can carry 300+ Blast arrows alone, the guy's a supermule. They are easily affordable at higher levels once you sell the plentiful and high value unwanted loot you amass from Bitterblack Isle.

I'd say they're poor value at low levels in Gransys, best used at higher level's in BBI when you have plenty of cash (you really have more cash than you can spend if you sell your unwanted high level gear).

Also I've easily farmed Cursed Dragon's with these items and rancid bait in Bitterblack's Duskmoon Tower, a well equipped Ranger will own any BBI Dragon/Wyrm (Tenfold Flurry/Blast arrows to the heart. Silencer and Blast arrows for the Wyrms).

[Goddess Ilias]

only arrows you need are blast arrows xD

[AgnosticChaos]

Originally posted by eyeC:

Do you carry any of these? There are so many different types, that I just ignore them. I ignore them because to carry some of each would be too much weight, and I don't have any feel for how I might prioritize them. Blast arrows sound good, but they're heavy ... are they anything like throwblasts?

Just looking for feedback on what others do regarding special arrows.

Blast arrows do less damage per arrow than throwblast, presuming no periapts are used. Also, don't ignore different arrow types. They're each quite useful, especially if you play ranger with the skill Spiral Arrow / Corkscrew Arrow and have the Morbidity Augment. At that point, you might as well stay you broke BBI.

[AgnosticChaos]

Originally posted by Cirno:

only arrows you need are blast arrows xD

I disagree. Sleeper Arrows is how you bully monsters.

[Madjar]

Originally posted by AgnosticChaos:

Originally posted by Cirno:

only arrows you need are blast arrows xD

I disagree. Sleeper Arrows is how you bully monsters.

*laughs in corkscrew arrow"