Are warrior pawns really bad?

[Sacky]

Was wondering if it was a bad idea to have my main pawn be a warrior if I want more RC because it feels like I don't really get any hires. If warrior pawns really are so unpopular, what sorts of pawns do most people look for? Of course there's always the possibility that I have made a bad warrior pawn too. Also sort of curious if people only look for female pawns.

[̷D̷a̷e̷r̷o̷n̷i̷c̷u̷s]

1.- Is not a bad idea to have a warrior pawn, but has to be well trained, also a warrior vocation is good to get high physical damage quicker.
2.- Most people looks for support pawn like mages, rangers, striders. Something that can shot to flying enemies. This is common if you and your pawn are not made for distance attacks, like a warrios and a knight. This also works for speed based partys, Warrior are more bulky and slower but do much more damage. So a good adition could be having a mage or a strider to bringing down flying enemies and trainig your warrios to hit stronger enemies.
3.-There is plenty of female-only items, some of them brings very good stats, and if your main pawn is female and want her to wear dragonforged items, your character must be female as well, in order to dragonforge items. Some quest also are easier to female characters.

[Nezeroth]

A lot of people go for female pawns, yes. That doesn’t mean your pawn won’t get hires, though.

As for a Warrior pawn, I had mine as one for a while. I optimized it for knockdown and decent damage output, so it was both support and damage. He made fights pretty easy, but that could have been because I was on normal diffficulty at the time since I hit 200 and had no need for Hard Mode.

If you want to make yours a Warrior, here is the loadout I had for mine:

Skills: Corona Slash

Augments: Clout, Vehemence, Ferocity, Eminence (Exhilaration would probably be better), Impact, Tenacity

Weapon: Devil’s Nail

Head: Persecutor Mask/that other ox helm

Chest: Cursed Kings Belt

Rings: Barbed Nails

The rest is Hellfire and then Patterned Gambeson and Silk tights for clothing.

Only having Corona Slash ensures the Warrior doesn’t waste time on the useless skills Warriors have. Core skills are where the damage comes from, so only having the one ability makes it so that they use core skills more often, and use the skill with the better knockdown ability.

Hope this helps.

[eyeC]

I liked my warrior pawn when she was in that stage; and I regularly hire warrior pawns when neither my own pawn nor I are suited to the task. I'm level 79, so I've not seen all there is to see; but so far, so good.

[FEZ. TF7]

Warrior pawns have the best stat growth for health and attack from level 10-100

if you want to look at the stat growths http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths

I tend to level phys damage dealer pawns in warrior from around level 20-100 then from 100-200 i use them as fighters and striders, fighters for the defense and health, and striders for balanced stat grown and stamina

[Sacky]

Originally posted by Nezeroth:

A lot of people go for female pawns, yes. That doesn’t mean your pawn won’t get hires, though.

As for a Warrior pawn, I had mine as one for a while. I optimized it for knockdown and decent damage output, so it was both support and damage. He made fights pretty easy, but that could have been because I was on normal diffficulty at the time since I hit 200 and had no need for Hard Mode.

If you want to make yours a Warrior, here is the loadout I had for mine:

Skills: Corona Slash

Augments: Clout, Vehemence, Ferocity, Eminence (Exhilaration would probably be better), Impact, Tenacity

Weapon: Devil’s Nail

Head: Persecutor Mask/that other ox helm

Chest: Cursed Kings Belt

Rings: Barbed Nails

The rest is Hellfire and then Patterned Gambeson and Silk tights for clothing.

Only having Corona Slash ensures the Warrior doesn’t waste time on the useless skills Warriors have. Core skills are where the damage comes from, so only having the one ability makes it so that they use core skills more often, and use the skill with the better knockdown ability.

Hope this helps.

Are you saying that corona slash is the only worthwhile skill to keep on a warrior pawn? My own pawn has corona slash plus escape slash and exodus slash are those not worth having?

[Sacky]

Originally posted by Sith Olus:

Warrior pawns have the best stat growth for health and attack from level 10-100

if you want to look at the stat growths http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths

I tend to level phys damage dealer pawns in warrior from around level 20-100 then from 100-200 i use them as fighters and striders, fighters for the defense and health, and striders for balanced stat grown and stamina

That makes me feel a bit better, know that my pawn's getting some good stats lol. Still don't really get why it never gets hired though.

[Sacky]

Originally posted by Daeronicus:

1.- Is not a bad idea to have a warrior pawn, but has to be well trained, also a warrior vocation is good to get high physical damage quicker.
2.- Most people looks for support pawn like mages, rangers, striders. Something that can shot to flying enemies. This is common if you and your pawn are not made for distance attacks, like a warrios and a knight. This also works for speed based partys, Warrior are more bulky and slower but do much more damage. So a good adition could be having a mage or a strider to bringing down flying enemies and trainig your warrios to hit stronger enemies.
3.-There is plenty of female-only items, some of them brings very good stats, and if your main pawn is female and want her to wear dragonforged items, your character must be female as well, in order to dragonforge items. Some quest also are easier to female characters.

By well trained, do you meant he proper skills and augments? Hm.. Knowing that, maybe I should looking into changing my pawn into a strider. That sounds like a huge hassle lol.

[frogtown1]

For me, inclinations are my main focus when assessing warrior hires. I wouldn't call them useless, it's just that they can get outclassed by the fast dps of strider and ranger.

[Nezeroth]

Originally posted by Jurpigo:

Are you saying that corona slash is the only worthwhile skill to keep on a warrior pawn? My own pawn has corona slash plus escape slash and exodus slash are those not worth having?

It is not the only worthwhile one, but it is the best to put on your pawn’s skills if you are just using one. Warrior skills do around the same amount of damage, with the exception of Lunge, Lash, and Arc. However, Lash and Lunge do the same damage as each other, and still do less damage than Core Skills. Arc takes too long to charge and doesn’t do enough to make that charge worthwhile. Only about 80% of one of Daimon’s health bars.

Whirlwind Strike and Pommel Bash only seem to stop at stagger once an enemy reaches a certain size. They can knockdown Garm, but not anything bigger. Corona Slash, though it takes a few hits, goes immediately to knockdown on even a Condemned Gorecyclops, which is unaffected by the other two mentioned.

And the only reason you put one is because it will make the pawn less likely to waste time and potential damage because they used a skill. Core skills also seem to stagger and knock down more than any of the skills. So having a skill at all is still less preferable. But having no skills on the bar seems to make the pawn not want to attack at all. So Corona Slash is the one I put on there because it seems to me to have the best effectiveness in the long run.

[FEZ. TF7]

Originally posted by Jurpigo:

Originally posted by Sith Olus:

That makes me feel a bit better, know that my pawn's getting some good stats lol. Still don't really get why it never gets hired though.

The player count is not that much to be honest, rarely breaks 1000 and I suppose some of those are returning while they wait for Monster Hunter, I completed another playthrough the other day and my pawn only got hired around 10 times and she only got hired when she was a fighter or ranger

Inclination's is a big factor for many players if they'll hire a particular pawn, if a fighter or warrior has guardian, medicant, nexus, pioneer or acquisitor then they'll rarely get hired, I certainly wouldn't hire them

Also I think that most people prefer fighter pawns over warrior's as they have better defenses and more utility

[Sacky]

Originally posted by Sith Olus:

Originally posted by Jurpigo:

That makes me feel a bit better, know that my pawn's getting some good stats lol. Still don't really get why it never gets hired though.

The player count is not that much to be honest, rarely breaks 1000 and I suppose some of those are returning while they wait for Monster Hunter, I completed another playthrough the other day and my pawn only got hired around 10 times and she only got hired when she was a fighter or ranger

Inclination's is a big factor for many players if they'll hire a particular pawn, if a fighter or warrior has guardian, medicant, nexus, pioneer or acquisitor then they'll rarely get hired, I certainly wouldn't hire them

Also I think that most people prefer fighter pawns over warrior's as they have better defenses and more utility

That explains alot lol. idk why I thought there was a decent player count atm. Thanks for the input lol.

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[raystevens73]

Originally posted by Jurpigo:

Was wondering if it was a bad idea to have my main pawn be a warrior if I want more RC because it feels like I don't really get any hires. If warrior pawns really are so unpopular, what sorts of pawns do most people look for? Of course there's always the possibility that I have made a bad warrior pawn too. Also sort of curious if people only look for female pawns.

1:Read this post and it will shed some light on the pawn hiring of many.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/367500/discussions/0/1739964947817180951/
2:Most feel Warriors are slow and clunky because they like the faster pace of other types.
3:Random hires are far and few so get on the active pawns list for more hires.
4:This is the most important one yet, play the game the way you enjoy it and if it gives you trouble about gaining enough rift crystals to un-curse gear and such then ask for friend request from those who play the game often.

[capricorn1971ad ® ٿ]

Originally posted by Jurpigo:

Originally posted by Nezeroth:

A lot of people go for female pawns, yes. That doesn’t mean your pawn won’t get hires, though.

As for a Warrior pawn, I had mine as one for a while. I optimized it for knockdown and decent damage output, so it was both support and damage. He made fights pretty easy, but that could have been because I was on normal diffficulty at the time since I hit 200 and had no need for Hard Mode.

If you want to make yours a Warrior, here is the loadout I had for mine:

Skills: Corona Slash

Augments: Clout, Vehemence, Ferocity, Eminence (Exhilaration would probably be better), Impact, Tenacity

Weapon: Devil’s Nail

Head: Persecutor Mask/that other ox helm

Chest: Cursed Kings Belt

Rings: Barbed Nails

The rest is Hellfire and then Patterned Gambeson and Silk tights for clothing.

Only having Corona Slash ensures the Warrior doesn’t waste time on the useless skills Warriors have. Core skills are where the damage comes from, so only having the one ability makes it so that they use core skills more often, and use the skill with the better knockdown ability.

Hope this helps.

Are you saying that corona slash is the only worthwhile skill to keep on a warrior pawn? My own pawn has corona slash plus escape slash and exodus slash are those not worth having?

If he is he woudl be dead wrong, Pommel Bash is a warriors gravy.

pommel bash is the fastest attack a warrior has, and it has a good stagger effect with it, which is actually capable of stunlocking opponents.

I have a descent Warrior, his name is Tezcatlipoca (which means "Smoking Mirror"), you can bring him up and look at him if you wish to see what i did. (his account is capricorn1971ad3)

My warrior pawn gets rented quite a bit, my RC is maxed out, can't get any RC from rentals at all, terrible waste really, if others woudl make comparable warriors maybe they coudl help with some fo the load so it wasn't all wasted.

you know my Warrior is the ONLY pawn I have that its RC is maxed out??

[capricorn1971ad ® ٿ]

Originally posted by Nezeroth:

I didn’t say that, I just meant it was the prime choice if you only used one. The problem is Pommel Bash only stops at stagger. It only goes so far unless you spam it to no end. And even on Normal with maxed KD/ST it takes at least 2 hits to stagger on the bigger enemies of BBI. Takes about 3 hits to knock down a Condemned Corecyclops with Corona on Normal.

fastest chained attack is pommel bash repeated.
Corona slash is really good too, i use those two with exodus slash in case of emergencies.

One thing I found about having a good warrior as a pawn, which I really didn't expect.. was they made the PERFECT pawn for a MAGIC ARCHER, i kid you not..

he makes the perfect wall for me.

I didn't think he would be as good as he is..