what are the best dual knives??

[Poznak]

i currently use dragons pain (or is it vein?) and while i use them i have i think 1200-1300 damage, they are red dragon forged and i am level 90. what are some better dual knives i could try and get?

[Poznak]

i just checked and its 1355 damage

[Huggles the Cat]

Frame Blades for pure physical damage.
Sapfire Daggers for magical fire enchantment with lowered defense debilitation.
Rusted Daggers for poison and torpor (slow) debilitation.

[Proconsul]

Framae Blades are the most powerful raw damage dealing daggers in the game, maxing out at 1429.

Dragon's Pain and Dragon's Vein are both dagger sets, roughly comparable with each other, with Pain coming in higher when enhanced to 3 stars but Vein passing it in damage once dragonforged. They max at like 900 and 1000, respectively.

To my thinking the only dagger set that give Framae Blades a run for their money for the title of "Best in Show" would be the Sapfire Daggers. They max at 568 physical plus 798 fire damage. On the surface that makes them inferior in two ways, less total damage and much less damage against fire resistant beasties. On the flip side, however, they have two nice advantages. First they can hurt critters that have physical damage resistance, where Framae's are useless. Second, they have an extra attribute in that every strike carries a chance to inflict a lowered defenses debilitation on the enemy, that chance increasing the higher the upgrade level of the daggers. At Gold forged they inflict it very reliably. This is a force multiplier, as it causes the beastie to take +30% extra physical damage not just from your attacks but from your pawns' as well.

Edit: Emu'd >.<

[Poznak]

how do i get sapfire blades?

[ZeroSbr]

Originally posted by Proconsul:

Framae Blades are the most powerful raw damage dealing daggers in the game, maxing out at 1429.

Dragon's Pain and Dragon's Vein are both dagger sets, roughly comparable with each other, with Pain coming in higher when enhanced to 3 stars but Vein passing it in damage once dragonforged. They max at like 900 and 1000, respectively.

To my thinking the only dagger set that give Framae Blades a run for their money for the title of "Best in Show" would be the Sapfire Daggers. They max at 568 physical plus 798 fire damage. On the surface that makes them inferior in two ways, less total damage and much less damage against fire resistant beasties. On the flip side, however, they have two nice advantages. First they can hurt critters that have physical damage resistance, where Framae's are useless. Second, they have an extra attribute in that every strike carries a chance to inflict a lowered defenses debilitation on the enemy, that chance increasing the higher the upgrade level of the daggers. At Gold forged they inflict it very reliably. This is a force multiplier, as it causes the beastie to take +30% extra physical damage not just from your attacks but from your pawns' as well.

Edit: Emu'd >.<

I don't think there are very many enemies with slash resist anyways. Raw power weapons like Devilsbane, Darkening Storm, etc. seem to be just the best in their respective classes in general. In an ideal world, one could carry a slew of elemental weapons with them for every situation, but that would make you weigh too much in this game, to the point where you're slow and expend stamina like nothing.

TC, go for the Framae Blades. Sapfire is good, but a lot of things resist fire, which is the majority of its damage dealt, such as Hellhounds which are everywhere in post-game.

[Proconsul]

Originally posted by DrZoidberg:

how do i get sapfire blades?

Bitterblack Isle, cursed weapon lvl 2

Originally posted by Alucard:

In an ideal world, one could carry a slew of elemental weapons with them for every situation, but that would make you weigh too much in this game, to the point where you're slow and expend stamina like nothing.

TC, go for the Framae Blades. Sapfire is good, but a lot of things resist fire, which is the majority of its damage dealt, such as Hellhounds which are everywhere in post-game.

Not a slew. Just 1. Going into a boss fight have the Sapfires in hand, if it is weak to fire, rock em to the end. If it isn't, afflict the boss with the lowered defenses debilitation then switch to your bow, say Darkening Storm, and see what Fivefold Flurry multiplied by 1696 damage per arrow can do.

[Poznak]

are there any spots in bitter black isles where i could godsbane until i get a cursed weapon level two thing?

[Proconsul]

Originally posted by DrZoidberg:

are there any spots in bitter black isles where i could godsbane until i get a cursed weapon level two thing?

Not exactly. But even a marginally rounded toon, say level 45-50, can get quite far in and rack some serious cursed items, if the player is comfortable with his vocation and skills. Alternately there are one or two exploits that might avail, if you are trying to do this at a much lower level. Try googling "master thief gorecyclops" for one such.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Originally posted by DrZoidberg:

how do i get sapfire blades?

Purifiing level 2 Bitterblack weapons while your pawn and your vocation are yellow (Ie strider, ranger, assassin, magic archer) (But as assassin and magic archer has another color they can draw from those others too.