Any advice to fix some stutter while moving the camera?

[Net Sphere Engineer]

In Gran Soren for example when there is a lot of NPC's and and I turn the camera I will get a fast stutter like the game is loading the NPC's, buildings details and what not!

This happens less in dungeons and when I'm in a open space without too much monsters so it look like it's a performance issues but my PC is not that crappy :(

It's not a huge deal but still I think it would be great to fix this :)

I tried the following:

Disable VSYNC in-game and use the NVIDIA control painel to force VSYNC in the game with triple buffering and nothing.

Tried variable frame rate and nothing.

I even tried to disable anything in the graphics option to make it run like a potato and nothing :(

Play in windowed mode and use Borderless-Gaming seems to fix the problem just a little but the stutter is still there!

Here is my PC specs:

Motherboard:
Gigabyte Z97M-D3H
Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
RAM:
8GB
OS:
Windows 10 (64 bit)

Can someone please help me?

[Chavez145]

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

Originally posted by Lefein:

Have you checked to see if your Directx is updated? Stutter will come from 3 things. 1, something is up with your Directx or it's settings. 2 You're using Geforce Experience and you've let it automatically set things up for you and screwed it up./You're NOT using Geforce Experience at all. 3 It can also be something in your graphics settings. (Nvidia Control Panel) (I personally think this is the culprit). I say one of these is the issue, because your hardware is beyond what you need to play. Outside outright hardware failure, nothing in your system is causing that. It's common rhetoric to say "this game doesn't like my Graphics card". It's not only completely wrong, but it takes you further from solving your problem. if you had some no name card you found in a pawnshop; Sure could be the issue. A modern card of reasonable quality? Apply logic before getting frustrated. Open your Nvidia Control Panel and make sure all your settings are reasonable. Or, open it and post your settings so someone can tell you if something there is off. The game will play fine, you'll just need t o find out what's causing your problem. Oh, one last thing. You need a 60hz monitor to experience the game correctly. Make sure, 1 your monitor is set to 60hz, make sure you have Vertical Sync turned OFF, EVERYWHERE, make sure you don't have HDR ON in your control panel, then test it. If it still stutters we're narrowing down your frame drops.

For me directx is always up to date via windows update! Am I wrong? well mine says directx 12 and all tabs says it's all alright and I never even messed with directx in this PC till you talk about it :)

I'm not using Geforce Experience cause ppl says it sucks :) I tried it once but I really don't like to mess with game settings that much and I don't want they automatically changing stuff!

I'm usually happy in using the original in-game settings so my NVIDIA control panel is never touched! I only change things in the panel for DD cause I got problems but even with all of the options in the default causes me problems. The latest NVIDIA driver I installed I asked it to do a clean install and I still got problems so I think there is no need to paste my configurations here I guess...

Well I play using a TV attached to my PC via HDMI. I know it's not a gaming material but I never got problems with my TV for playing games!

HDR? I never messed with any control panel related to this! I play with it on in the in-game config menu but I tested the game with all options off and low and I still got these strange stutters

Found your problem, possibly anyway. Do you happen to know what your TV refresh rate is set at?

In the DDDA menu, you'll notice resolution and refresh rate are in the menu, it should have them set to whatever they are or as close to what they are that it can.
Also, to whoever above me said you can't keep this from stuttering, "no matter what"; I am sorry to inform you that you're incorrect. My game doesn't stutter, ever, at all, for any reason.
144hz refresh, @1440p using sweetfx/reshade variable refresh rate - no stutters.

The port was very well done, if there is stutter in a game, it's user error/user hardware.

To the OP: my discord information is Corrinne#6596. If you have a mic, and access to discord add me and I'll try to help you sort this problem out.
My occupation has granted me a unique skill set when dealing with graphics hardware. Not game design (wouldn't that be a great job!) However I do work with graphics hardware integrally in my occupation. If you can sort it without, fantastic. However before you pull your hair out, feel free to call me on discord.
From reading some posts from you, there is a serious possibility of bottleneck going on, from your settings or the overall size of your TV/refresh rate, or card stress/overheating under powering. If you can't fix this, you can call me on discord as I offered; I should be able to at least find the culprit. You've made me very curious about what's causing this.

[Chavez145]

Originally posted by Cyberpunk:

The last thing that I have to say is that SSD doesnt improve FPS and game performance ..The only thing that SSD does is give u a faster loading screen... But a defective hard drive can cause a bunch of problems, freezings, stutters etc.... you can check if your HD is ok with a free program called crystal disk http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html

This person is also correct. (Like in my first post; Hardware failure can cause this also.)

[Chavez145]

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

It's pretty strange but HDR set to low in-game SEEMS to give a little help and I end up liking to have it on low.

As I always say I might be wrong since I'm not a expert but maybe because I don't have a SSD things load funny for me cause stuters? Like I was walking and everything was alright but then the game slowed down a little and I thought: It's a big monster! and it was :)

HDR is high dynamic resolution, if turning that DOWN helped, you're bottlenecking. That bottleneck can happen from a few things, not enough power to the graphics card/not enough power from the power supply overall, windows reducing power usage to your graphics card, your TV is very large, you've set one of a myriad of things that bottle neck a graphics card. Lowering HDR and getting better results - is a bottle necking problem. FUTURE READERS KEEP IN MIND:!!!! >>> HIS issue is bottlenecking because he has a modern graphics card that exceeds this games requirements. Lowering HDR when your PC isn't powerful enough will also reduce load stress on a card that cannot handle what it's doing! (Forums can linger for years, I am making sure people of the future don't think they may have the same issue or that stutter in all cases in bottleneck; YOUR issue if bottleneck if you reported correctly)

Yes I tripple posted, I am very lazy with replies.

[Net Sphere Engineer]

Thanks a lot for the reply! I add you in here since I don't use discord if that's alright with you :)

A guy in another thread said to me that it might be windows power saving messing with my CPU/GPU capacity but I would like to avoid to mess in the BIOS and make my GPU work 100% even when I'm not playing!

I would like to start doing more simple stuff so I hope you can help.

[Chavez145]

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

Thanks a lot for the reply! I add you in here since I don't use discord if that's alright with you :)

Sure, I will be happy to help; simply because I am curious myself as to what is causing it.

[Nicholas Steel]

I... don't think I'm suitable for providing help on this as the game doesn't run perfectly on my machine at the moment (it used to, dunno why it doesn't now, maybe new video drivers worsened it or Windows 10 is responsible because I last played this under either Windows 7 or 8.1)

That being said,

- Try turning off C1E for the CPU in the UEFI if it allows you to (I think some UEFI will combine the C1E functionality with other functions making it unwise to turn the option off).
- Try turning off the APSM setting for the Northbridge and Southbridge in the UEFI.
- Try turning off HDD power management via Intel Rapid Storage Technology software application.
- Try my guide to disabling GPU power saving completely, changing the Power setting for the Global Profile will not fully disable the functionality (it used to, way back in the Geforce 200 through to 9000 era of video cards): https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?p=22911#p22911 (Watch the video for a very easy guide to follow, the text is just to explain background stuff about it all)

[Net Sphere Engineer]

What? You can't even load the game or it plays with bad performance? Is it stuttering?

Well if it's not working for you now but in the past it did I guess the culprit is Win10 after all or NVIDIA drivers since they never care about this obscure Japanese games and just focus on the FPS of the moment :)

EDIT: It's worth a wait since a lot of ppl are having worst problems:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1004600/geforce-drivers/all-games-stuttering-with-fps-drops-since-windows-10-creators-update/2/

Also this guy is having the exact problem as me so he decided to play with a integrated card :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/lowendgaming/comments/5c0ebe/dragons_dogma_running_better_on_integrated/

Guess there is nothing I can do to fix it since I'm a pus** and I really want to avoid to try your guide :( It's not that I don't trust you or anything really! You are helping me a lot and you have my thanks but this PC (that is not a beast) was super expensive for me in this piece of crap country I live so I prefer to play with stutters than not play at all.

[Sugoi]

Originally posted by Lefein:

Also, to whoever above me said you can't keep this from stuttering, "no matter what"; I am sorry to inform you that you're incorrect. My game doesn't stutter, ever, at all, for any reason.
144hz refresh, @1440p using sweetfx/reshade variable refresh rate - no stutters.

Respectfully, sir, I do not believe you.

Upload a video of you running around Gran Soren just as you boot the game and show me that stutter-free experience. I've never seen it on any system, even ones with dramatically stronger CPUs than I have.

I'm thinking most likely that you're talking about general stutter during play, which I agree, is practically non-existent. I doubt you'd purposefully lie, so this seems most likely to be a misunderstanding.

[Nicholas Steel]

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

What? You can't even load the game or it plays with bad performance? Is it stuttering?

Well if it's not working for you now but in the past it did I guess the culprit is Win10 after all or NVIDIA drivers since they never care about this obscure Japanese games and just focus on the FPS of the moment :)

EDIT: It's worth a wait since a lot of ppl are having worst problems:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1004600/geforce-drivers/all-games-stuttering-with-fps-drops-since-windows-10-creators-update/2/

Also this guy is having the exact problem as me so he decided to play with a integrated card :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/lowendgaming/comments/5c0ebe/dragons_dogma_running_better_on_integrated/

Guess there is nothing I can do to fix it since I'm a pus** and I really want to avoid to try your guide :( It's not that I don't trust you or anything really! You are helping me a lot and you have my thanks but this PC (that is not a beast) was super expensive for me in this piece of crap country I live so I prefer to play with stutters than not play at all.

All my suggestions are to do with power saving functionality, turning them off won't disable critical emergency functions that protect the devices from overheating and it won't allow the devices to perform outside of their intended specifications etc. The worst that will happen is your power bill will be higher/battery will drain faster/slightly hotter (not at all dangerous) idle temperature.

For me Dragon's Dogma still works, it just isn't performing as smoothly as it used to so I can't provide a good example of the game performing well and can't claim that the issue is entirely to do with your computer configuration. I've got a newer/different video card since I last played, numerous driver updates have been released, upgraded to Windows 10 etc.

Any of these could be the cause. I'm also now using regular 1600MHZ DDR3 RAM instead of 1600MHZ XMP equipped RAM.

[Net Sphere Engineer]

I know nothing about this stuff but still my gut tells it is either Win10 or NVIDIA drivers fault and they will never fix it :(

I'm going to skip this BIOS hardware configurations thing for now and wait till I can get a new portable HD or something and I will try to install Win7 and test it.

Still it's strange no one complains about this problem. Maybe no one is playing the game in the same configurations I am or they just think this is a normal thing to happen in a old game like I did in the start.

Originally posted by Sugoi:

Originally posted by Lefein:

Also, to whoever above me said you can't keep this from stuttering, "no matter what"; I am sorry to inform you that you're incorrect. My game doesn't stutter, ever, at all, for any reason.
144hz refresh, @1440p using sweetfx/reshade variable refresh rate - no stutters.

Respectfully, sir, I do not believe you.

Upload a video of you running around Gran Soren just as you boot the game and show me that stutter-free experience. I've never seen it on any system, even ones with dramatically stronger CPUs than I have.

I'm thinking most likely that you're talking about general stutter during play, which I agree, is practically non-existent. I doubt you'd purposefully lie, so this seems most likely to be a misunderstanding.

When you say after boot you mean that little slow down when you first load the city in the game? Yeah my stutters are like that! It's like the game decides to load the whole thing in front of me :( This game must have a messed up engine hahahaha

[Beef]

In all likeliehood, this is due to your HDD read speeds and not your PC's other components. If you can't get an SSD (they're pretty affordable these days, I have a 512GB one that cost $120), then you can try to defrag your existing drive.

[Tiberius]

very rarely happened to me. The north quarry is the only place im having this problem. Set your hdr to low and see if it helps.

The game was a mess when it was released in x360. This port is actually one of the best ports we ever got

[Net Sphere Engineer]

Originally posted by Dose:

In all likeliehood, this is due to your HDD read speeds and not your PC's other components. If you can't get an SSD (they're pretty affordable these days, I have a 512GB one that cost $120), then you can try to defrag your existing drive.

Guess Win10 is always defragging stuff since mine is always OK but it could be that I keep the PC clean so this is not the problem :)

Originally posted by HARAMBE BOY:

very rarely happened to me. The north quarry is the only place im having this problem. Set your hdr to low and see if it helps.

The game was a mess when it was released in x360. This port is actually one of the best ports we ever got

My HDR in-game is low cause I really prefer it low but sadly it do not fix my problem.

[Nicholas Steel]

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

Originally posted by Dose:

In all likeliehood, this is due to your HDD read speeds and not your PC's other components. If you can't get an SSD (they're pretty affordable these days, I have a 512GB one that cost $120), then you can try to defrag your existing drive.

Guess Win10 is always defragging stuff since mine is always OK but it could be that I keep the PC clean so this is not the problem :)

I very much doubt the HDD is at fault. The Xbox360 and PS3 come equipped with pretty abysmal HDD's in terms of performance.

Originally posted by Net Sphere Engineer:

Originally posted by HARAMBE BOY:

very rarely happened to me. The north quarry is the only place im having this problem. Set your hdr to low and see if it helps.

The game was a mess when it was released in x360. This port is actually one of the best ports we ever got

My HDR in-game is low cause I really prefer it low but sadly it do not fix my problem.

The xbox360 version of the game is pretty fantastic, sure its frame rate can at times fall below 30FPS but other than that I never had any issues with it. In regards to HDR why would you lower it? I doubt it has any meaningful impact on performance. If you dislike the intensity of the glowing that the HDR causes on various objects there is a handy mod for that and it even includes the option of reducing the glow for everything but melee weapons.

[Net Sphere Engineer]

I'm pretty dumb when it comes to graphic differences in games so for me HDR really did not add much so I just turned it off cause things seemed to glow a lot for my tastes but what saddens me is this stutters :(

I'm too afraid to change things on BIOS but well if it is to make the use of hardware less demanding I guess it's OK right?

I saw some ppl on GeForce foruns saying that disable Intel Turbo Boost Technology on BIOS solved their problems I tried here but nothing really changed it just made my processor speed decrease from 3,93GHz to like 3,58GHz so I thought: Now the game will get some kind of stable condition and will not stutter! Sadly I was wrong.