Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

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Shiroi Ren Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:27am
How to kill the Cursed Dragon (easy mode)
For the people who want to dragonforge their equipment without any threat...
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Corlain Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:47am 
You can cheese the Ur-dragon too, if you just stand on the bridge where you come in and shoot at him. I think he can only cast one spell which can hit up there and you can dodge that. It's pretty useless, of course, unless you're really desperate.

It takes ages to kill the Cursed Dragon like that, if you have some wakestones it may still be easier just go and hit him in the heart at least for a while.
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 7:09am 
that is hard mode, not easy ;) really, not dissing here. i doubt there is not one player who wasn't doing exact same thing at first

easy mode is simply climbing his heart and hack it away. cheesing him in doors takes too much time to be easy... god bless your darkening storm, if you had dragon's ire story would be completely different

or if you want bow cheese kill, it is better if you run around at balcony (or any higher position to bait him in the air). he will constantly fly up and cheese him down whole time. you get one shot to knock him on the ground and then band or lynceean for preemption when he is down for major damage. the damage you do is way, way higher when he falls down and reels than what you can do when he is up and ready. with strider you can simply use fracture dart all the time

it takes everyone playing yellow vocations quite a while before they muster courage to do exact opposite of what pawns say "it is ?useless? to face him head on". facing him head on is fastest way to kill him. roll under bite, jump, grab, hack.

for red vocations you simply keep position under his legs and hack, while magic can just spam holy focused bolts

the trick with climbing cursed dragon is to go further underneath him where his grab/swipe doesn't reach you.
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 7:11am
Shiroi Ren Feb 24, 2017 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by l_hamalainen:
It takes ages to kill the Cursed Dragon like that, if you have some wakestones it may still be easier just go and hit him in the heart at least for a while.
It take 4 minutes to kill CDragon this way... His heart is always on the same spot. Even when it is flying. The fastest way I used is actualy get close and personal though.
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Shiroi Ren:
Originally posted by l_hamalainen:
It takes ages to kill the Cursed Dragon like that, if you have some wakestones it may still be easier just go and hit him in the heart at least for a while.
It take 4 minutes to kill CDragon this way... His heart is always on the same spot. Even when it is flying. The fastest way I used is actualy get close and personal though.

tip, put rancid meat in duskmoon right at entrance ledge where you originally came in for the first time. he will spawn. now shot one arrow and he will fly in the air to get you. knock him down and... shoot lyncean arrow into his heart while he is down. he goes up, you shot him down followed by another lyncean... watch the damage and smile. lyncean on the ground will be worth a lot of bow shots due to having preemption bonus and being by default much stronger than band ;)

baiting dragons in the air for bow cheesing is about 5x faster than baiting in the door and shooting his heart

p.s. only reason why you do it in 4 minutes is your darkening storrm. most people when encountering cd for first times have at best dragonforged ire which is doing lot less damage. takes good 15-30 minutes with that if not goldforged
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 3:28pm
Shiroi Ren Feb 24, 2017 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by wh1sper_123:
p.s. only reason why you do it in 4 minutes is your darkening storrm. most people when encountering cd for first times have at best dragonforged ire which is doing lot less damage. takes good 15-30 minutes with that if not goldforged
It's possible with 1700 ATK and holy pact. But I think that Blast Arrows and Periats would make it much faster.

P.S.
I used it because I got stucked there. This Random Encounters can be annoying sometimes.
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Shiroi Ren:
P.S.
I used it because I got stucked there. This Random Encounters can be annoying sometimes.

wait until you get to not so random encounter. in forgotten hall, post daimon there is enemy setup which is by far most annoying in whole game. whole bunch of hellhounds, few strigoi and then most annoying thing there can be. 4 corrupted pawns spell sycing randomly set over dark hall and spamming maelstrom and seism like there is no tomorrow. spells one shot you no matter what your build/gear is or where in the room (or sometimes even outside) you are. until... you learn this is most probably lesson for ledge campers. if you go on ledge they start spamming spells. if you don't they will start when you enter the room and there is more than enough time to deal with them before they cast one single spell. bravado really pays up here ;)

like this wouldn't be enough it gets worse. death is scripted to spawn when you enter the room almost 100% (unless death already roams the place when you enter). you will lose pawns or you will die. or you escape trough that room to next area so you remove death from the picture and then deal with everything.

same room in other setup is sirens, eliminators and 3 garms.

did i mention that room also has two prisoner gorecyclops. if your pawns are scather there... it can be real thrill ride. you fight alone while they keep freeing prisoners ;)

btw, random encounters are not so random. it is basically hotspot which triggers it when you pass it. when going down in midnight helix dragon will spawn exactly one step before jumping over the gap on lowest bridge or he won't spawn. just remember where you were at time of spawn and you'll never be surprised after you get the hang of it. you can as well use rancid meat when you're in advantageous position

also, you were not stuck. wait until he does 3 bite combo and roll under him. but, i know the feeling in the beginning, lol. you'll get used to it, don't worry ;)
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:29pm
Cadrian Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:29pm 
or y'know, comestion him to death, his fire weakness really ♥♥♥♥♥ him up, he also gets stunned ridicoulously easy, bolide will just stunlock the poor guy leaving his heart wide open to any melee vocation, no cheesy spots needed tbh
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Cadrian:
or y'know, comestion him to death, his fire weakness really ♥♥♥♥♥ him up, he also gets stunned ridicoulously easy, bolide will just stunlock the poor guy leaving his heart wide open to any melee vocation, no cheesy spots needed tbh

so, you stand in front of him inside the same room without any ledge camping or wall glitching while casting those spells? (* me thinking how this game goes *)

if you said holy focused bolts, yes. they do tremendous damage to CD and don't have casting time making you available for dodging.

but... casting spell like bolide? nope, everyone doing that is pretty much ledge camping, cheesing from behind pillars... which is already cheesy spot by default
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 5:43pm
Shiroi Ren Feb 24, 2017 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by wh1sper_123:
so, you stand in front of him inside the same room without any ledge camping or wall glitching while casting those spells? (* me thinking how this game goes *)
Actualy it glitches there... Aside of charging breath attack nothing can hit you. And it can't move out of there too.
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 6:54pm 
Originally posted by Shiroi Ren:
Originally posted by wh1sper_123:
so, you stand in front of him inside the same room without any ledge camping or wall glitching while casting those spells? (* me thinking how this game goes *)
Actualy it glitches there... Aside of charging breath attack nothing can hit you. And it can't move out of there too.

no, i meant that for the high horse BS spewing from Cadrian about no need for cheesy spots and then using Bolide.

like cursed dragon would ever just wait for him to cast Bolide while standing in the same room without anything between them. as soon as he said Bolide... @.@... BS... in CAPS

only way mage/sorceror can fight head on battle with CD is holy focused bolts (fire bolts are not good since they don't have piercing effect like holy). it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard, but when you win it feels so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good

probably every player of this game did same cheesing in first times with many enemies. cheesing or no cheesing, everyone has to have learning curve
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 7:00pm
Cadrian Feb 24, 2017 @ 9:06pm 
Bolide can be easily casted if a melee vocation or a well aimed focused bolt hits him in the crystal heart, even more so when a well placed commestion gets all hits in the heart, even then when its in the air or busy grabbing pawns gives you enough time for a level 1 bolide, and the stun from getting hit by 1 or 2 meteors of it gives you enough time for a lvl 2 second bolide
Cadrian Feb 24, 2017 @ 9:11pm 
even then, well built ranger, fighter or strider pawns can take the heat of the sorcerer casting the slow spells
Shiroi Ren Feb 24, 2017 @ 9:13pm 
Pawns are stupid... And they usualy take too much time to provoke CDragon to speed up process. Sometimes they even turn it to you.

Holy Bolts can knockback it the same way.
wh1sper_123 Feb 24, 2017 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by Cadrian:
Bolide can be easily casted if a melee vocation or a well aimed focused bolt hits him in the crystal heart, even more so when a well placed commestion gets all hits in the heart, even then when its in the air or busy grabbing pawns gives you enough time for a level 1 bolide, and the stun from getting hit by 1 or 2 meteors of it gives you enough time for a lvl 2 second bolide

nothing like bravado you tried sounding as. and by the tactic you describe, pretty much prolonged as well since you rely on absolutely unreliable.

but one thing really makes me curious. you can see clearly OP has bow in his hands. how the ♥♥♥♥ would he be able to use commestion and bolide?

if we're bringing different vocations in, it is more or less normal to kill CD in 15 seconds as soon as i hit level 46 at which point i already have GF helmbarte ready to hack. one roll and 2-3 brain splitters is all it takes if you buff a little. maybe you could do it like this in your sorcerer vocation? just cast... brain splitter... no biggie
Last edited by wh1sper_123; Feb 24, 2017 @ 10:52pm
konn Feb 24, 2017 @ 11:41pm 
I agree that it is easy to kill it that way and with little risk to it. For myself I opt to take a more risky but heroic approach to kill it.

I use goldforged rusted bow to quickly torpor him. Then i climb to a slightly higher place (3-4 meters above the ground level) where he can't hit me physically. He will shortly fly up where I can then use any of the concentrated/focused shot skill to blow him out of the sky with one or two shots. While he's writhing on the ground recovering from the fall, climb onto his heart and use hundred kisses to take away a few bars of life. Rinse and repeat a few times. With torpor the fight becomes leisurely and the most intense part of the fight is clicking on the mouse to pull off the hundred kisses. Of course having a mage on the team equipped with cosmestion really helps taking it out when it is writhing on the ground.
Last edited by konn; Feb 25, 2017 @ 12:10am
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