What about DEATH?

[DownSouth05]

The first time I ran into 'Death' was level 55 or so and my two hired pawns were level 60. Got destroyed! Now I am on my 2nd play through and I am level 86 and my two hired pawns are level 90. So I am a sorceror and my panw is a fighter. I have hired Strider and a Mage. Second time we ran into "Death" we last about 5 seconds longer.

Questions are: Am I still too low in level, even though I've managed to get to this point in the dungeon pretty easily.

If my level is ok for this boss, then what is the strategy here. I read somewhere that I have to target the lantern, but I am never able to get a target on it for my spells. My pawn was hired out and he apparently was in a party that killed it, as it appeared in his stats as 2 stars.

[Dunkelheim]

At that level, you're not going to be doing enough damage to make the the effort even worth it. Just save your time and headache and run to the next room.

Don't feel bad though, Death is purposely designed to be fought in small bursts since it has an ungodly amount of health and it'll just end up reappearing randomly later.

But if you do insist, just stack on 4 magic boosting items (Demon somethings), and spam holy charged bolts. It's probably the best DPS attack that the Sorc has. Just don't expect much unless you have level 3 bbi weapons.

And pawns, they're next to useless when fighting Death.

[Smug Kot]

Originally posted by Ricewarrior:

At that level, you're not going to be doing enough damage to make the the effort even worth it. Just save your time and headache and run to the next room.

Don't feel bad though, Death is purposely designed to be fought in small bursts since it has an ungodly amount of health and it'll just end up reappearing randomly later.

But if you do insist, just stack on 4 magic boosting items (Demon somethings), and spam holy charged bolts. It's probably the best DPS attack that the Sorc has. Just don't expect much unless you have level 3 bbi weapons.

And pawns, they're next to useless when fighting Death.

at level 51 you are oficial a murder machine since you can wear lvl 3 bitterblack gear, stats becomes useless with those weapons.

theres a lot of cheesy tactics to kill death, im not gonna explain them becouse ruins all the fun but its all explained in the wiki.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Originally posted by Skinny_Legs:

The first time I ran into 'Death' was level 55 or so and my two hired pawns were level 60. Got destroyed! Now I am on my 2nd play through and I am level 86 and my two hired pawns are level 90. So I am a sorceror and my panw is a fighter. I have hired Strider and a Mage. Second time we ran into "Death" we last about 5 seconds longer.

Questions are: Am I still too low in level, even though I've managed to get to this point in the dungeon pretty easily.

If my level is ok for this boss, then what is the strategy here. I read somewhere that I have to target the lantern, but I am never able to get a target on it for my spells. My pawn was hired out and he apparently was in a party that killed it, as it appeared in his stats as 2 stars.

Death insta kills everything. Every. Thing. You can actually trick him into killing condemned gorecyclops for you and get the XP.

[Dunkelheim]

Originally posted by Doge Waifu:

at level 51 you are oficial a murder machine since you can wear lvl 3 bitterblack gear, stats becomes useless with those weapons.

Assuming you get lucky and get gifted level 3 BBI weapons at such a low level or you have friends or another high level account to transfer or use exploits/hacks. Though if those were the cases, I doubt anyone would come in here and ask how to kill death at that point.

Otherwise It's pretty annoying to even try to tackle Death. Personally, I'd much rather use that time to run past him and get better gear.

[Smug Kot]

Originally posted by Ricewarrior:

Originally posted by Doge Waifu:

at level 51 you are oficial a murder machine since you can wear lvl 3 bitterblack gear, stats becomes useless with those weapons.

Assuming you get lucky and get gifted level 3 BBI weapons at such a low level or you have friends or another high level account to transfer or use exploits/hacks. Though if those were the cases, I doubt anyone would come in here and ask how to kill death at that point.

Otherwise It's pretty annoying to even try to tackle Death. Personally, I'd much rather use that time to run past him and get better gear.

farming daimon, godsbaning in front of chests, etc.

as you said theres no point on killing death early (normal no cheesy way), better do it once you are full geared.

[Ferr]

Death resist holy attack according to wiki. It will do inly 60% damage on it. Also it has different resistance each time it appear. Try both magic and physical on each encounter to findout which one is more effective. Also it will run away when you deal wnough damage(about 1.5 health bar). So you have to fight it multiple times unless you can keep stagger it and deal massive damage.

It has only two pattern that matters. When the lantern glows in purple it will emit purpule gas or light on surrounding which makes enemy fall to sleep. When the lantern glows in yellow it will search for prey and swing its weapon each will insta kill anything on its range. This attack makes pawn very vulnerable to the death since they are not very eager to avoid its attack.

Use anti sleep gear, magic or skill to buy more time to deal damage when the death using sleep spell. If you don't have any there is very small window to actually deal damage to it especially for melee class which make things harder.

Death has very high health pool and hard to defeat only because of that. My arisen recently reached lv 200 and with BBL lv e weapon she still has to hack that thing for quite time to repel it. So just take your time. Its the most annoying enemy in the entire game IMHO.

[Hyrind]

Bitterblack Isle is full of things that you might need to run from until you start getting post game/bitterblack weapons. Death is definitely one of those. Death is pretty easy to evade, though. Don't be near it when it attacks, pretty much.

Also watch out for the other corpse-feeding monsters. And if you see a giant cyclops chained to the wall, be sure to save before trying your luck.

[DownSouth05]

Interesting, thank you. It never occured to me that I could actually run past him. Thank you :)

[Schrödingers Katze]

I am currently level 115 with silver dragonforged stuff and whatnot and I still can not put a single scratch on Death (well, unless you do not count the ONE health bar I took from him with Makers Finger, the supposedly insta kill arrow), so don´t feel bad. BBI is designed to be an equal to Dark Souls in terms of curbstomping you if you are not prepared for it.

[wh1sper_123]

Originally posted by Level 2 Ham Fighter:

Originally posted by Skinny_Legs:

The first time I ran into 'Death' was level 55 or so and my two hired pawns were level 60. Got destroyed! Now I am on my 2nd play through and I am level 86 and my two hired pawns are level 90. So I am a sorceror and my panw is a fighter. I have hired Strider and a Mage. Second time we ran into "Death" we last about 5 seconds longer.

Questions are: Am I still too low in level, even though I've managed to get to this point in the dungeon pretty easily.

If my level is ok for this boss, then what is the strategy here. I read somewhere that I have to target the lantern, but I am never able to get a target on it for my spells. My pawn was hired out and he apparently was in a party that killed it, as it appeared in his stats as 2 stars.

Death insta kills everything. Every. Thing. You can actually trick him into killing condemned gorecyclops for you and get the XP.

you don't get xp on kills done by other enemies.

i'm sure of that because whenever i start new game (even on ps3) i run to BBI as soon as i kill cyclops on encampment at about level 5 to dragonforge rusted gear.

it goes something like this. run past everything to midnight helix and pick 2 throwblasts on the way. in midnight helix run to broken grate and farm rancid meat from the chest. throw 2 throwblasts on cyclops, set rancid meat and escape to safety. now all you need is keep baiting dragon so he is focused at you and cyclops will kill it in 2-3 min. end result is that gear is dragon forged, but i am still single digit level. note that actually killing both levels you up to 45 or so. killing them at level 5 is again easy as in 90% giant will fail to hit the heart at least few times leaving dragon with 1hp where you can kill it with the fist and cyclops can be brought down by poison+burning and books pretty quick since he is most probably really down on hp if you tampered the fight well

[ShinkuTear]

The best way to farm Death, is to either use Magick Archer and Ricochet Hunter in the Bloodless Stockade, or one of the 3 other Bow vocations with their Fivefold Flurry/similar and Blast Arrows.

With a BBI Level 2 or 3 bow, Death with Stagger/Launch every 15 Blast Arrows, and with Strength boosting consumables you can kill him in a single encounter, with just a few hundred arrows.

[wh1sper_123]

tip that might make death easier for class like sorcerer is simple. get your self 100% sleep protection. unequip lamps on all pawns and keep yours lit on. this will make death follow you around where you can bait so pawns are always out of hit range and if there is a stray, just run up to him and throw him. if you boost your pawns with (tagilus+salomet)*4, pawns them selves will do enough damage at level 50 without any problem while you're playing decoy. if you have time to spare you can as well do decent damage with spell books

death is kind of a pain for some classes, but...
- if you have bow, blasting arrows will do tons of damage when boosted with periapts, but you're always slow and encumbered
- strider skill brain splitter makes death complete joke. with framae you can do up to almost 1 whole bar in one jump. even balanced strider without periapts can take out 2+ bars of hp just in time while death is casting sleep
- warrior is easy as well. bait death to start sleep spell, go behind and charge arc of deliverance/obliteration. same for fighter, just dragon maw.

sorceror has same strategy as warrior except fight will be longer. and you can use books for multi casting. books more or less do same damage as leveled up sorceror except they have almost 0 casting time. at your level, books do more damage than you without periapts, but unlike you books are not boosted by them

if you're not sure you can win or there are too many enemies, liftstone or run away

and most important thing. in this fight periapts*4 are a must if you're low level and same goes at high level with full gear if you don't want prolonged fight

[Cyanmurder]

Im level 155, with all level 3 gears, and I might have scratch him a bit.

[wh1sper_123]

Originally posted by Ricewarrior:

Originally posted by Doge Waifu:

at level 51 you are oficial a murder machine since you can wear lvl 3 bitterblack gear, stats becomes useless with those weapons.

Assuming you get lucky and get gifted level 3 BBI weapons at such a low level or you have friends or another high level account to transfer or use exploits/hacks. Though if those were the cases, I doubt anyone would come in here and ask how to kill death at that point.

Otherwise It's pretty annoying to even try to tackle Death. Personally, I'd much rather use that time to run past him and get better gear.

no need for glitching/hacks really. why would you say that? and no need for lv.3 gear either

you can get BBI lvl.2 weapons as soon as you kill first cyclops and get access to BBI. at least for ranger/strider you can get both weapons really easy.

if you run past everything to midnight helix and pick up the key you get access to area with moonbeam gem. this is where you get your bow and for other weapon you can simply just slightly enter vault of defiled truth (lv.1 weapon and gear lv.2) or if you arrange fight between gorecyclops and dragon where you make sure dragon wins. and you dragonforge it while making cyclops wins

lv.2 weapons already do tons of damage, you just need the ones without elemental damage for death. helmbarte for example is only 100AR shy of framae. but even DF only has 1030AR which is enough no matter which level you're on with periapts as you already have same attack as maxed assassin with GF gear when not using periapts. weapons with split damage are not good enough. for fighter, cursed bite is ok, cursed light is not

then all you need is farming liquid vim in encampment to mediate stamina drain or you can just buy tons of mushrooms

if you need early blast/other arrows. they can be farmed on the very top of duskmoon tower. you get 40 various arrows from two gathering spots. and with those GF your helmbarte to 1300AR+ is trivial. petrify garm or constantly put ogre to sleep.

at the same time if you were planning well, you dragonforged both rusted weapons for most of the play at the very beginning. both trivial to upgrade to GF where they do tons of damage, at least more than any weapon pre-dark arisen before the dragon. so you keep using rusted most of the time and switch to lv.2+stamina when necessary

as for periapts, they can be bought from madelaine from very beginning by 2 and then waiting for restock

game is really well thought out for speedruns or personal challenges. mostly everything can be mitigated in one way or another as well as accessed whenever you want.

[Level 9 Hamslayer]

Originally posted by wh1sper_123:

Originally posted by Level 2 Ham Fighter:

Death insta kills everything. Every. Thing. You can actually trick him into killing condemned gorecyclops for you and get the XP.

you don't get xp on kills done by other enemies.

i'm sure of that because whenever i start new game (even on ps3) i run to BBI as soon as i kill cyclops on encampment at about level 5 to dragonforge rusted gear.

Kh but you do. I've done it myself and seen videos of random high level monsters jumping off cliffs and the player getting XP for it. You just have to damage it first.