Dragons Dogma: Dark Arisen is an underrated gem.

[Eternal Return]

Yes the story isnt the strongest but the roleplaying elements and the cutscenes with your created character are wonderful. Why is this game given so much hate?

[Lu2]

Times are hard indeed. game needs sequel

[Burba]

I like the game but for everything it gets right it gets somthing wrong. For instance the story is not good but the combat is.

[Zarathustra]

Finding it mediocre in almost every aspect, combat is fun but could use rolling or other dodging mechanic.

[Eternal Return]

Originally posted by Zarathustra:

Finding it mediocre in almost every aspect, combat is fun but could use rolling or other dodging mechanic.

i give it some grace because its a capcom made western inspired rpg and i think they did well on their first try, the ending is what really got me

[wh1sper_123]

Originally posted by Zarathustra:

Finding it mediocre in almost every aspect, combat is fun but could use rolling or other dodging mechanic.

if there is one thing perfect, it is exactly this. rolling is only available for some classes while others have their own ways of class specific dodge

warrior with roll would be just... strange. Exodus at least really looks and works so it makes sense doing that action with giant hammer. although, warrior does have a roll when using Controlled Fall

[Keg]

I gotta be in the mood to play this. But I understand why some people downright hate it. I really think it depends what time in your life you play it, is how youll view it. For example I started playing this after binging on the elder scrolls...and I hated it. I felt so closed in(combat aside). But atm Im loving it. Weird huh

[Dax__B]

It took me a while to warm up to it. I bought it way back on release day on Steam due to word of mouth and abandoned my initial playthroughs after a few hours.

None of the systems it was implementing (especially pawns) was explained that well. I also really hate games with terrible UI and Japan seems to be king in keeping the old 90's feeling systems.

Youtubed some guides after a dry gaming spell and I been playing this non stop for the last month and a half. Once it clicked the game really shined through.

I'm going to be sad to say goodbye to it after my current second playthrough and grabbing the remaining achievements.

[Rabouk]

Same story here, initially found it meh, but couldn't let it go once I got into it. Soon reaching the extent of things to do and finding myself desperately wishing there was more content.

[Kuroneko]

for the same reason that miley cyrus and justin bieber youtube vids have [phone] views and really nice alternative music have about 40000.. people sucks :) ... but yeah the game is amazing...weapons, armor, skills, animations, atmosphere etc..all these things in the game are very impressive. The combat mechanics in this game is the best I've seen, very solid and fluid. The only problem is that the map could be bigger...could have more characters and more things to do... in my opinion, despite it's problems, this game is a masterpiece, much better than games like skyrim.

[qaz]

Objective reasons:
Quests are MMO tier
Story before you kill the Dragon
Paused healing
Stupid damage calculation
Wakestones trivvalize death

Subjective reasons:
Pawn system

And last time I checked it had 8+ score on Metacritic and was fastest Capcom's selling PC game when it got released, so "much hate is exaggeration.

[Ailedroc]

I really liked the story. I found it a joy to play through from the start to learn more about what was going on. Compared to popular games like Dragon's Age or Skyrim which both had stories I found so boring and awful, that I quit playing both those games soley because of their stories.

Rarely do I find a new game that tickles my fancy anymore. I think Dragon's Dogma is fantastic, and it's one of the games I'd like be playing far into the future.

[Keg]

Really? I love LOVE the elder scrolls stories. They always make me feel like a badass. Dragons Dogma, while not bad....was just kinda there. JUst my opinion though. I know lots of people think ES has boring writing but, I love it.

[Herb & Bea Ehltée]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeKeith:

None of the systems it was implementing (especially pawns) was explained that well. I also really hate games with terrible UI and Japan seems to be king in keeping the old 90's feeling systems.

Definitely my most major gripes. The UI is atrocious indeed, along with the save system. Failing a quest because I did a really early story mission first was a big downer too.

But so far I like it as a game okay and I'm on the train to adequate gameplay addiction @ 15 hours in. It has some Risen-like elements that I appreciate, like tough enemies in places that are close to your starting area. I like the world too. And while the money flows easily and often, at least it's so far a game that makes me commit to hard economy choices, which I like. (in e.g. Skyrim I had an early bankroll that was absurd and nothing worthwhile to spend it on).

I'm sort of on the fence about the combat mechanics. I'm playing with K&M as a strider and it feels like the special attacks and the differentiation between bow mode and melee is all a little messed up and clunky. But it's also pretty fluid overall and fun.

Other gripes: It suffers from poor characterisation and personality. A lot of the characters you meet are really wooden, and not just the pawns. Auto-leveling and the somewhat anemic customisation leave me a bit cold too.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by CharlieBucket:

Originally posted by TheyCallMeKeith:

None of the systems it was implementing (especially pawns) was explained that well. I also really hate games with terrible UI and Japan seems to be king in keeping the old 90's feeling systems.

Definitely my most major gripes. The UI is atrocious indeed, along with the save system. Failing a quest because I did a really early story mission first was a big downer too.

But so far I like it as a game okay and I'm on the train to adequate gameplay addiction @ 15 hours in. It has some Risen-like elements that I appreciate, like tough enemies in places that are close to your starting area. I like the world too. And while the money flows easily and often, at least it's so far a game that makes me commit to hard economy choices, which I like. (in e.g. Skyrim I had an early bankroll that was absurd and nothing worthwhile to spend it on).

I'm sort of on the fence about the combat mechanics. I'm playing with K&M as a strider and it feels like the special attacks and the differentiation between bow mode and melee is all a little messed up and clunky. But it's also pretty fluid overall and fun.

Other gripes: It suffers from poor characterisation and personality. A lot of the characters you meet are really wooden, and not just the pawns. Auto-leveling and the somewhat anemic customisation leave me a bit cold too.

The UI is a subjective matter. I quite like it myself.
The save system is absolutely fine, and the restriction to one save slot is a technical limitation related to the pawn system.
The failing quest thing, I can agree with, except that it warns you every time except for the cart escort quest.
The combat mechanics are perfectly fine with a controller, which is what this genre of game works best with. You are doing the functional equivalent of complaining about the keyboard controls in a flight sim.
For the characterisation, it's much, much improved by remembering that the world DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND THE PC. Also, character related sidequests and interacting with them every now and then outside of quests shows deeper characterization.
Auto-levelling isn't a problem in this game since it's easy to control and stats ultimately are not as important as gear.
Also, you are implying the character customization in this game is bad? Have you actually spent any time with the character creator? It's one of the better ones out there.

[Herb & Bea Ehltée]

Originally posted by DarthNachoz:

Originally posted by CharlieBucket:

Definitely my most major gripes. The UI is atrocious indeed, along with the save system. Failing a quest because I did a really early story mission first was a big downer too.

But so far I like it as a game okay and I'm on the train to adequate gameplay addiction @ 15 hours in. It has some Risen-like elements that I appreciate, like tough enemies in places that are close to your starting area. I like the world too. And while the money flows easily and often, at least it's so far a game that makes me commit to hard economy choices, which I like. (in e.g. Skyrim I had an early bankroll that was absurd and nothing worthwhile to spend it on).

I'm sort of on the fence about the combat mechanics. I'm playing with K&M as a strider and it feels like the special attacks and the differentiation between bow mode and melee is all a little messed up and clunky. But it's also pretty fluid overall and fun.

Other gripes: It suffers from poor characterisation and personality. A lot of the characters you meet are really wooden, and not just the pawns. Auto-leveling and the somewhat anemic customisation leave me a bit cold too.

The UI is a subjective matter. I quite like it myself.
The save system is absolutely fine, and the restriction to one save slot is a technical limitation related to the pawn system.
The failing quest thing, I can agree with, except that it warns you every time except for the cart escort quest.
The combat mechanics are perfectly fine with a controller, which is what this genre of game works best with. You are doing the functional equivalent of complaining about the keyboard controls in a flight sim.
For the characterisation, it's much, much improved by remembering that the world DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND THE PC. Also, character related sidequests and interacting with them every now and then outside of quests shows deeper characterization.
Auto-levelling isn't a problem in this game since it's easy to control and stats ultimately are not as important as gear.
Also, you are implying the character customization in this game is bad? Have you actually spent any time with the character creator? It's one of the better ones out there.

Of course what I think of the UI is subjective. Most of what I wrote was. Most of what you wrote was.

Maybe this will make it easier:

The save system is ****in my very subjective opinion**** not absolutely fine. Multiple saves are ****in my subjective opinion**** always better. It looks like there's a mod to address this, fortunately (and I say "fortunately" here as part of ****my subjective opinion****).

The failing quest thing you can agree with. Okay, at least you're not telling me I'm wrong about something. I don't remember any warning though. I'm tempted to try again and see just what the warning was.

K&M vs controller: Not even getting into this tired kiddie stuff, but pushing the flight sim with keyboard bit as a "functional equivalent"? No. I said it felt a little weird and clunky but that the combat was nevertheless fluid and fun. It's not unplayable and I would definitely enjoy it less with a controller.

Your characterisation argument: What I wrote has nothing to do with the PC. I'm not even sure what you're talking about there. At least part of wooden characters is about what I consider bad acting, dead-looking facial expressions, and thin writing, ****in my subjective opinion****. In any case, I'll reserve final judgment until I've played through the whole thing about character depth; maybe I'll ultimately agree on that, but so far no.

Auto-leveling isn't a problem since it's easy to control and because items: Sorry, but ***in my subjective opinion**** I disagree. I prefer ****in my subjective opinion**** a more sophisticated leveling system *and* items, not one trumping the other. To throw the game a bone, there is a lot of the same stuff as leveling customisation outside of the moment of leveling - i.e. choosing a new vocation and new combat moves and enhancements in a city.

Re: Character customisation. I wasn't speaking on a level as superficial as the character creator, but more related to the leveling bit. I'm not talking about wider cheekbones and hair styles here. I'm talking about a more sophisticated and more customisable attribute system and other classic P&P RPG character creation elements.