How Much Does Payroll Jump When Player is Rich?

[noobermenschen]

Hi all, :)

Day 186, and my second crisis (Greenskin Invasion) has just started, so Christmas is coming for sellswords. I am outside the fortress of my favorite noble faction with 29.8k crowns and a buttload of trade goods. How much am I going to get socked for once I top 30K gold and my Brothers ask for a raise? I have a roster of 18 and close to 500 daily payroll.

I can spend a lot of that gold, I have three future killers lvl 6, 7 and 8 I can and probably will send to the training hall again. I can buy a large wagon (20k), which I am leaning towards.

Armorer has a nice coat of scales and a coat of plates for extortionate prices. Weapon Maker has a 2h hammer and great axe for two of my killers, though they are merrily causing havoc with a long axe and a pole hammer. Not leaning towards either of these options.

So should I string my Brothers along poor mouthing for a while longer, or just bite the bullet and start paying them what they're worth?

[Siril]

If you get a Paymaster camp follower your brothers won't ever ask for a raise in random events. It also lowers the overall upkeep cost by 15%.

[A5G_Reaper]

Weapon upgrades seems no-brainer there. Wagon is also a pretty good choice, more room equals more loot you can carry back to sell. Dont pay for the armor though, that's the one thing you should strictly only loot off your enemies' corpses.

Alternatively you could mass hire bros to fish for some chads, if you plan to keep playing for much longer.

The worst part of that event is that it's bloody repeatable, you'll feel the pressure quickly enough if you keep paying. Best to just hire the paymaster and forget about it. But you could also decline it and take the one-time pay increase per bro in the form of greedy, they'll eventually develop disloyal that'll make them content to sit in reserve without losing mood (just dont let them become unhappy or they'll leave so fast)

[A5G_Reaper]

As for how much pay increase, 4 per bro so with 18 bros you'll be paying 72 more daily. Whereas refusing which lead to greedy trait will increase by 15% for the affected bros, so eventually it'll be 75 more daily wage once everyone got it.

[noobermenschen]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

The worst part of that event is that it's bloody repeatable, you'll feel the pressure quickly enough if you keep paying. Best to just hire the paymaster and forget about it.

Oof, I was afraid of that event being repeatable. I am happy with my retinue (Scout, Scavenger, Cook, Surgeon, Blacksmith) though I was going to replace my Cook with Bounty Hunter after the crisis. I could replace Scavenger with Paymaster though tools were hard to come by during the last crisis.

For now I think it's the big wagon and some training hall time, then look at hiring the Paymaster once I'm in the chips again. Thank you both for the advice! :)

[Siril]

For me Paymaster is a must for every playthrough. A cook can save you a lot of money on provisions not spoiling too fast and the HP regen rate can be very helpful when you have to take 'too many' battles in quick succession. The one I am on the fence about is the Surgeon, sure one day less for all injuries seems nice but unless you want to utilise his other bonus, all the important injuries can be taken care of at a tempe or with consumables
( Aphotecary's Miracle crafted at a taxidermist). You mentioned a 500 payroll but I was able to manage a 700 daily upkeep and still make money in one of my playthroughs, and while researching something else I found people online who claimed to go as high as 1200 daily upkeep and still manage it. Reaper does have a point about prioritising weapons, for me it's usually the first thing to go for once I have passed the horrors of the early game. You must however pay close attention to how much of an upgrade a named weapon is going to be, since the boost to its stats is random. And Wagon is something that you will always get eventually, it's entirely up to you when you feel financially comfortable getting it.

[99Random]

Originally posted by noobermenschen:

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

The worst part of that event is that it's bloody repeatable, you'll feel the pressure quickly enough if you keep paying. Best to just hire the paymaster and forget about it.

Oof, I was afraid of that event being repeatable. I am happy with my retinue (Scout, Scavenger, Cook, Surgeon, Blacksmith) though I was going to replace my Cook with Bounty Hunter after the crisis. I could replace Scavenger with Paymaster though tools were hard to come by during the last crisis.

For now I think it's the big wagon and some training hall time, then look at hiring the Paymaster once I'm in the chips again. Thank you both for the advice! :)

Unless you have downloaded the mod that fixes it, the Cook us useless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/1bcpe53/does_the_cook_and_blacksmith_work_properly_or_are/?rdt=44603

[Siril]

Originally posted by 99Random:

Unless you have downloaded the mod that fixes it, the Cook us useless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/1bcpe53/does_the_cook_and_blacksmith_work_properly_or_are/?rdt=44603

Interesting. According to the thread Blacksmith doesn't work either, but I just launched the unmodded game on a laptop and the Blacksmith faster repairing definitely works. The Cook HP regen, however, is definitely bugged without the mod.

[Calandro]

Originally posted by Siril:

Originally posted by 99Random:

Unless you have downloaded the mod that fixes it, the Cook us useless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/1bcpe53/does_the_cook_and_blacksmith_work_properly_or_are/?rdt=44603

Interesting. According to the thread Blacksmith doesn't work either, but I just launched the unmodded game on a laptop and the Blacksmith faster repairing definitely works. The Cook HP regen, however, is definitely bugged without the mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/365360/discussions/1/3721692478292060034/

[Siril]

I glanced over at the number of days it takes to repair gear with or without blacksmith, obviously the game tricked me.

[Scathe]

are you sure topping 30k triggers possible wage increase requests? I thought it was only if you had greedy brothers or had the sellsword background...

[Siril]

Originally posted by Scathe:

are you sure topping 30k triggers possible wage increase requests? I thought it was only if you had greedy brothers or had the sellsword background...

Yes, 30k is the threshold for brothers to ask for a raise. The Greedy trait seems to have an independent threshold of 4k crowns when asking for a raise.

[noobermenschen]

Spent down to 8k crowns and was back up to 29.6k in 16 days, so replaced my Cook with the paymaster. :) Thank you all for the info!

I will be taking a look at the weapons upgrades though, I have learned recently that orc young and beserkers I've been mowing down on contracts are a cast iron ♥♥♥♥♥ to deal with when their gobbo friends are replaced with warrior tanks. No more warlord camps for the time being....