How to deal with Orc Warriors?

[Champion Æternal]

Does anyone know the average armor rating for the orc warriors because honestly I cannot defeat these guys, much less a whole army plus orc youngs and a warboss.

My brothers are level 9+, armed with military cleavers, royal swords, winged maces, and one warhammer.

I have observed the warhammer to be best against armor, even having a special attack designed to wreck a piece of armor on the enemy... but it doesnt do that much (maybe half armor damage) to an orc warrior.

Any suggestions or tips? I cannot beat these guys! At lest not without casualties.

[espritcrafter]

equip your men with warhammers to chew away at their armor. When dealing with orc warriors, I try to use a spearwall to slow them down a little, then fight close in with warhammers. Having your archers switch to billhooks from behind the front line also helps. I try to always have warhammers equipped or ready when fighting vs orc warriors.

[Chief]

I have fought yesterday with my bb against 6-7 orc warriors and then 4-5 orc warriors+2 orc boys. I was much weaker in the level and equipment but my weapons were very good and I had the high terrain+overwhelmed. Most mercenaries were just level 3 and had 3 skills (colossus, bags&belts, quick hands). Only my captain is level 11 and has a high value in fatigue and low consumption.
The captain has the 'rally the troops, brawny, weaponmaster, battle flow' ability to reduce the fatigue of all men and himself. My men would otherwise have no chance but were equipped with billhooks, greatsword, greataxe, warhammer. Forget swords, spears, bows, knives, sticks, weak axes or other minor weapons. That makes little damage and only costs time...and during this time you're death. You need the best of the best!!!
Do not waste fatigue in riposte, stun, shield bash, speerwall or shieldwall. Orc warriors usually attacks the shield and destroy it or breaks the spear wall. You need all your fatigue for heavy single attacks or effect attacks against several enemys. These orc warriors must be killed as quickly as possible.
You should destroy the shields if one has no height advantage and low hit chance. A shield attack always has 100% hit chance. Otherwise your bb has little chance and that must go quickly. Orc warriors are deadly, use often shieldwall and should as little as possible to attack. For this each battle brother needs the useful (greataxe,greatsword)-weapons, then drop the orc-metal shields in a round destroyed on the ground.
You can also free equip a shield after use a two-handed weapon for better defense. Use the warhammers to destroy the armor with 200%. If you have not equipped the shield takes your mercenaries both hands and makes 25% more damage.
Crossbows are only effective against orc warriors hp when at least one armor body/-or head was destroyed and if the orc warriors shield destroyed even better. In my opinion, you should have the skills bags and belts and quick hands. Then one can change his weapons when you need it.
In any case, you need a lot of damage, fatigue and strong weapons for all bb. I have the 4 bag slots full with weapons for any situation. It is not easy and you need good luck that the enemy does not hit!!!
Let the enemy come and build your position. Do not waste your fatigue. Stay and fight together. Orcs rush wildly toward you. Save your strength and your position you do not have much time! Never finish your round too early. Sometimes arise better situations or unexpected. Maybe you can make a better impact if one waits what happens.
Mostly I hit multiple enemies at once and place the billhooks in the second row on high terrain. Put the crossbows as high as possible. Take as much enemies as possible with a effect attack increases the chance of survival for the whole group.
If you're alone, you can save your a.s.s. and release a war dog. The dog is 100% killed but distracts the enemy for one or two rounds.
I hope it helps!!!
Here's 2 screenshots.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=534430182
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=534464386

[Mithril]

If shield'd Warhammers, if not shielded daggers, shields are worthless against orcs, they just break them, unless u have orc warrior shields they can take 4-5 hits before breaking. I choose not to break thier shields, they actually sell quite nicely and are decently balanced for use agaisnt goblins

[Sarissofoi]

1#Get your commanding officer Inspiring presence. It give all your fellows confident state which grant them +5 to Melee and Ranged Skills and Melee and Ranged Defence.

2#Get all your frontlines collosus, hold out, battle forged -> nimble.
Hold out double bonusses from Confidence status.
Nimble double Melee Defence when you not use shield.
That mean a low level brother with 10 defence have now 40(10 from Morale stat and X2 from nible) when shield is heavy(lower fatigue) and go ussualy in 1 or 2 hits and grant less defence than high Melee Defence brother can get from NImble.
You can even boost it higher with dogde but you want wear heavy armour just in case so lucky shoot will not kill your brothers and Dogde stop working when you get hit and is less effective when fatigue grows(as it work as % of CURRENT Initiatve). When Collosus is great all along(your guys should have at last 60HP plus 15 bonus from collosus) and Battle Forged is very useful against all ranged units.

3#Then get hammers or if you dont have it maces and axes for them. Or you can get orcs weapons (if you have points spend in utylity tree and Rally the Troops sergant bigger cost on attacks doeasnt matter).
No shield mean increase in damage.
Hammers can ussualy destroy orc armour in 2 hits and always wounds so they are great with Fearsome.
Maces give 10 Fatigue to target so you can tire them to the point when they dont move.
Axes are all around good weapons and easy to get from Fallen Heroes or Bandit Leaders.
Having spare(bags and belt&quick hand is the must) or at last Weapon master perk is helpful. Nothing worse than fighting orcs with abre fists. At last always carry dagger(no fatigue cost and can Puncture).

4#If you have any Battle Flow&Perfect Focus killers give them bilhooks(alot of them) and move them in group so you can concetrate all of their firepower to kill nearby Warrior orcs in one turn.
Keep sergant with high bravery I mean Resolve and Rally the troops nearby so they can kill even more.

Dont bother to fight Greenskinsif you are low level and poor armed. Orc Warriors are high tier and they will squash your forces. Even if not they are ussualy not worth fighting. Its more profitable and easier to hunt bandits for uniqe sword and armors or fallen heroeas for their cool looking shields and weapons. Not mention that bandits are best source of mid to high tier weapons and are the most rpofitable to farm.

[Champion Æternal]

I never realised how much math could possibly go into this! Thanks for all the suggestions guys! I need to go shopping at the nearest castle now..

[Chief]

This weapon you get from the goblin boss and is extremely strong against armor and hit points. When hit enemys are thrown back a field. A very powerful weapon .
'Spiked Impaler Crossbow'
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=535182246

[Porkie]

Just to chime in, if your solution is to "get the very best most expensive weapons and armor in the game (or end-game repic drops), and then u can fight orcs", it's not a real solution.

Personally, I don't the game is perfectly balanced yet, so expect some difficulty :)
My last playthrough I ran into an unbeatable orc horde with 10 warriors, warboss, young orcs and berserkers. Since none of my level 10 guys with warhammers were a match in single combat for even a single orc warrior without extreme RNGluck, it was bed time for them.

[Champion Æternal]

Huggles ` の投稿を引用：

Just to chime in, if your solution is to "get the very best most expensive weapons and armor in the game (or end-game repic drops), and then u can fight orcs", it's not a real solution.

Personally, I don't the game is perfectly balanced yet, so expect some difficulty :)
My last playthrough I ran into an unbeatable orc horde with 10 warriors, warboss, young orcs and berserkers. Since none of my level 10 guys with warhammers were a match in single combat for even a single orc warrior without extreme RNGluck, it was bed time for them.

I just attempted this fight, for the tenth time or so, using a new strategy suggested. I hoped even that would work.. it did not.

[Chief]

@✙Oberfeldmarschall✙
You must explore the world and search for goblin villages.
Here are a few screenshots...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=535336448
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=535336821
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=535336925

[Rezi]

I think the biggest trouble with Orc warriors is that they can knock your tanks away and get close to your squishy damage dealers.
I have had more success when moving all of my BBs to the edge of the battlefield and get in a formation that is immune to knockback. Then with 4 heavily armored tanks and a nimble swordmaster I was able to hold out against an army of 1 Orc warlord, 12 Orc warriors and 4-5 Orc youngs. I won the battle with only 1 casualty (the nimble swordmaster). My party was mostly level 11, though. My ranged guys were all using crossbows because they can do more than 15 hit points damage which can cause the Orcs to lose morale.

[Champion Æternal]

BBV の投稿を引用：

I think the biggest trouble with Orc warriors is that they can knock your tanks away and get close to your squishy damage dealers.

No this is not the case whatsoever (not for me atleast). And moving your men to the edge of the map is trial and error because there is always a few who get caught alone for me.
The one thing that i hate the most is the warrior's charge which instantly and has 100% chance of stun. It should really be not 100%

[Mithril]

Huggles ` の投稿を引用：

Just to chime in, if your solution is to "get the very best most expensive weapons and armor in the game (or end-game repic drops), and then u can fight orcs", it's not a real solution.

Personally, I don't the game is perfectly balanced yet, so expect some difficulty :)
My last playthrough I ran into an unbeatable orc horde with 10 warriors, warboss, young orcs and berserkers. Since none of my level 10 guys with warhammers were a match in single combat for even a single orc warrior without extreme RNGluck, it was bed time for them.

Actually endgame equipment such as warhammers, combat axes are easy to get, kill bandits or undead champions, both options aren't that difficult at even low levels. Armor yes can be hard to get early game but if u have daggers u can bypass armor hit health points directly and gain alot of free armor off bandits, by level 3-4 u can be quite geared and have quite abit of gear to sell to buy more equipment.

Orc warriors should be ignored pre level 8ish, they are meant to be strong, they really are the only challenging mobs in the game (yes goblins are annoying but easy to manage) But killing them is highly rewarding shields sell for 60 a pop, weapons more.

Also alot of of those rare named drops are off of bandits, which again arent difficult at all.

I've sacked large orc settlements with 20 orc warriors, 4 orc berserkers and 2 warlords warhammers/daggers/nimble wins everytime, didn't lose a soul, but walked away with full bags!

[Sarissofoi]

Defense&Utylity is only choce against orcs. If you wanna avoid losses.

No shields just nimble and boosted morale plus heavy armour and hammers/cleavers with fearsome.
Orcs cant hit your guys you hit them and broke their morale. No glass cannons mean they can push your guys but only so they tired faster.
I try hybrid 4/4/2 build but just don't feel right.

[Rezi]

✙Oberfeldmarschall✙ の投稿を引用：

BBV の投稿を引用：

I think the biggest trouble with Orc warriors is that they can knock your tanks away and get close to your squishy damage dealers.

No this is not the case whatsoever (not for me atleast). And moving your men to the edge of the map is trial and error because there is always a few who get caught alone for me.
The one thing that i hate the most is the warrior's charge which instantly and has 100% chance of stun. It should really be not 100%

Are you sure you faced Orc warriors? They certainly don't charge, only the Orc youngs do. I am also curious when you say that the knockbacks are of no concern to you. What do you do when they get close to your damage dealers?

[Champion Æternal]

BBV の投稿を引用：

Are you sure you faced Orc warriors? They certainly don't charge, only the Orc youngs do. I am also curious when you say that the knockbacks are of no concern to you. What do you do when they get close to your damage dealers?

Yes, orc warriros (an army), warboss, many orc youngs, and some beserkers. I think the youngs charged me and the beserkers, they hit a little bit and then immediately after I kill some of them the warriors come up and wreck my shi**.