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Best backgrounds for pure duelist?
As the title goes , tried here and there with duelists but planned to focus on getting some going on my nexts runs and wondered wich were the backggrounds more fitted for the role with some insights, guessed on top that woudnt be a bad recent topic for some ppl intursted also , butchers and ratcatchers seem well inclined but.. idk
Originally posted by Heron:
There are 2 types of duelists with different stat requirements: Fencer (with a Fencing sword) and everything else.

Non Fencer duelists are pretty similar to your average 2h guys. You can make them BF or nimble, want lots of mdef, good matk and a good fatigue pool (60+). All the popular frontline backgrounds can do it well with good stat rolls. Farmers, Brawlers, Raiders, Hedge Knights and so on.

Fencer duelists are best with extremely high initiative, good melee attack, some mdef and if possible good hp because they'll be nimble. Assassins are best for this. Thiefs, Ratcatchers and Barbarians can make good ones too.
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Heron May 18, 2021 @ 4:01pm 
There are 2 types of duelists with different stat requirements: Fencer (with a Fencing sword) and everything else.

Non Fencer duelists are pretty similar to your average 2h guys. You can make them BF or nimble, want lots of mdef, good matk and a good fatigue pool (60+). All the popular frontline backgrounds can do it well with good stat rolls. Farmers, Brawlers, Raiders, Hedge Knights and so on.

Fencer duelists are best with extremely high initiative, good melee attack, some mdef and if possible good hp because they'll be nimble. Assassins are best for this. Thiefs, Ratcatchers and Barbarians can make good ones too.
Anarchist Wolf May 18, 2021 @ 4:09pm 
Thx for the info Heron , i was indeed thinking about fencer ones explicitly , while beeing anacronistic.. rapier seems kinda cool , il trie finding some good assassin , running atm a mediocre ferncer with low hp pool and.. coudnt resist to buy around day 100 right affter my first crisis wich was surprisingly short this time a named fencer chestpiece.. for basically all my savings at that moment .. 17 k .. not advisable but saw it fittinn to do for once xdd .
turtle225 May 18, 2021 @ 4:11pm 
Any decent frontline candidate can go Duelist really. Which weapon you want to use can change which stats you care about more. For example an Orc Duelist will need more fatigue than regular Duelists.

The usual good backgrounds have above average potential to be good Duelists, because they tend to have above average potential to do anything.

Edit: For fencer, Heron already hit on it, but Assassins tend to have the best chances by base stats.
Last edited by turtle225; May 18, 2021 @ 4:12pm
Heron May 21, 2021 @ 3:14am 
As we were talking about potential fencer duelist backgrounds...
I had to double check how that's even possible when I saw his base melee defense. xD
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2493284807
Last edited by Heron; May 21, 2021 @ 3:16am
Heron May 21, 2021 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Kuckool:
Gamblers are ok too.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1338824457

That one certainly is. =D
god ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ damn, he is the god of gambling xD, one can finally do the impossible ambition of the 9 stars superstar.
turtle225 May 21, 2021 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by Heron:
As we were talking about potential fencer duelist backgrounds...
I had to double check how that's even possible when I saw his base melee defense. xD
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2493284807

Not sure I would go Fencer there without Initiative stars, but he is certainly an amazing bro.

Maybe Qatal Duelist or Initiative Hammer. He'll be great whatever you do.
Heron May 21, 2021 @ 8:04am 
I'm running an anti-goblin campaign with the goal to clear the goblin city. Fencers really shine there.
Last edited by Heron; May 21, 2021 @ 8:05am
turtle225 May 21, 2021 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Heron:
I'm running an anti-goblin campaign with the goal to clear the goblin city. Fencers really shine there.

Indeed, very good against Goblins.. So are Qatal Duelists if you haven't tried those there. Only one guy can get a Goblin Trophy though.

I just rolled over Goblin City a few days ago because I spawned on a three tile hill facing down both the East and North. Easiest Goblin City fight I've ever had. Very anticlimactic with all of the preparations I made. Won in 5 rounds.
Heron May 21, 2021 @ 10:01am 
Maybe I'll give a Qatal duelist a try then. Can they one shot Gobbos with KF?
Teeyo(Chicken&Rice) May 21, 2021 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by turtle225:
Originally posted by Heron:
I'm running an anti-goblin campaign with the goal to clear the goblin city. Fencers really shine there.

Indeed, very good against Goblins.. So are Qatal Duelists if you haven't tried those there. Only one guy can get a Goblin Trophy though.

I just rolled over Goblin City a few days ago because I spawned on a three tile hill facing down both the East and North. Easiest Goblin City fight I've ever had. Very anticlimactic with all of the preparations I made. Won in 5 rounds.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ turtle thats some nice terrain generation, most of the time i did try, i was 3 tiles down on some harsh terrain.

Turn 5? were you playing with peasant militia? because if not i cant wrap my head around how you did it so fast :O
Last edited by Teeyo(Chicken&Rice); May 21, 2021 @ 10:03am
turtle225 May 21, 2021 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Heron:
Maybe I'll give a Qatal duelist a try then. Can they one shot Gobbos with KF?

18.8% chance with a normal Qatal against Ambushers, so not really. Would need a nice famed version.

Fencers are definitely going to have an easier time oneshotting Goblins.

Originally posted by Teeyo(Chicken&Rice):
Originally posted by turtle225:

Indeed, very good against Goblins.. So are Qatal Duelists if you haven't tried those there. Only one guy can get a Goblin Trophy though.

I just rolled over Goblin City a few days ago because I spawned on a three tile hill facing down both the East and North. Easiest Goblin City fight I've ever had. Very anticlimactic with all of the preparations I made. Won in 5 rounds.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ turtle thats some nice terrain generation, most of the time i did try, i was 3 tiles down on some harsh terrain.

Turn 5? were you playing with peasant militia? because if not i cant wrap my head around how you did it so fast :O

Last time I did it I was down 3 tiles fighting up so I know the pain. That's what you have to prepare for because you can't know what you will get.

I'm not playing Militia, but for some reason shooting down an Ambusher on turn three or something created a chain reaction panic wave that put over half the Gobbos to fleeing. I also had an Adrenaline bro jump/pin two of the Overseers on turn 2 so they couldn't whip. The third Overseer I dropped to Fleeing with Fearsome Warbow lol.
Last edited by turtle225; May 21, 2021 @ 11:11am
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