adorned mail hauberk(300,-34) vs coat of plates(320,-42)

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generally which is better to have?
also, adorned full helm(300,-18) vs decorated full helm(320,-21)
assume as brothers have brawny and battle-forged.

[turtle225]

Well, the extra 20 armor does help with survive-ability, but it's questionable if it is worth that much extra fatigue. Depends on your bro's build and how much usable fatigue he needs.

Or just go with what looks the most fashionable.

[=M$= Oroberus]

I'd say, if you got the space, it's less of a which and more of a when or whom

For your average late game day-to-day fights, you'll be better of with the hauberk as the chance of running low on stam and therefor prolonging the fight is more a an actual danger then getting hurt badly and therefor your line collapsing

For everything above that, from 40+ Orks including a Legendary to Legendary Locations the Coat Of Plates is more reliable as those rely way less of "quck slaughter and on we go" but more on positional play and endurance

It's also a question of which brother. It helps your super-bulky-bf-mega-tank WAY more to fullfill his role then it helps your kind-of-quick-slaughter-all-2H-bro with his role, it might even hamper your melee DD bros depending on their actual build and their stats.

Another role which is REALLY specific but lot of people used them in the past and probably still are today is the suicidal-tank-it-all-bait-barricade. Those are usually bros that suffered some severe injuries or no longer really fit in because you got better ones but they can still be used as road blocks that are ment to die fighting instead of retire.

For on legendary location the meta actually is to sacrifice one bro that binds a part of the fight while the rest of the company smashes in the faces of the other half

[UnluckyNoob]

Both are garbage. They do not provide enough protection from injuries without high end attachments. And attachments are usually harder to get than famed armour so you only want to use them on your best gear.

Just do not train BF bros till you get decent equipment for them. Use nimbleforged on most of your early/mid frontliners instead. It is much stronger than pure BF in early/mid game and roughly equal to it in the very late game(but requires low weight famed gear).

Decorated full helm is much better. Unless you use some kind of nimble the only helmet stat that matters is durability.

[UnluckyNoob]

Originally posted by =M$= Oroberus:

For on legendary location the meta actually is to sacrifice one bro that binds a part of the fight while the rest of the company smashes in the faces of the other half

That's only true for speedrunning monolith. In normal game you may bring either high quality tank or specialised tank who will easily survive.

[A5G_Reaper]

Coat of plates is just so bad. It restrict way too much of the bro's fatigue for only a marginal increase in durability. For damage dealers 20 durability wouldn't matter when they get whacked into a bad spot, while tanks that actually do like as much durability will instead need to consider that the fatigue difference could likely be what fuels one more indom.

The adorned helmet, now that's a competition. It doesn't feel too bad wearing it compared to the alternative.

[Calandro]

Originally posted by A5G_Reaper:

Coat of plates is just so bad. It restrict way too much of the bro's fatigue for only a marginal increase in durability. For damage dealers 20 durability wouldn't matter when they get whacked into a bad spot, while tanks that actually do like as much durability will instead need to consider that the fatigue difference could likely be what fuels one more indom.

The adorned helmet, now that's a competition. It doesn't feel too bad wearing it compared to the alternative.

You'd be surprised at the effect of even just 20 more durability for head and body for BF once you're at the 300+ range.

It adds anywhere from 0.5 to 2 hits to kill depending on the enemy, except for things like Chosen.

If you assume AFP, then even vs Chosen that 20 durability adds 0.2 - 0.6 hits to kill, which isn't amazing, but is BF's biggest weakness.

[Tlewnipla]

I would go with the plate. More durability is simply better. Do not forget that the adorned hauberk is basically a famed item (compared to coat of scales) and quite rare to find on an oathtaker.