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MisterRed Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:32pm
Why can't I hit anything?
Bought the game during the recent sale since I'd been looking at it for a while. It seems like it would be fun aside from a problem of what I consider to be artificial difficulty. For some reason unknown to me, I hit maybe 1/6 attacks. maybe 1/5 on a good day or against monsters. But I swear enemies are at least twice as likely to hit me on the easier setting. Am I doing something wrong here? Aside from this, I'm really enjoying the game.
Originally posted by Heron:
It's pure chance if you hit or miss, but you can do some things to maximise your chances to hit. A quick rundown:

- The easy difficulty slightly cheats in your favor. You have a hidden +5 % to hit, enemies have a hidden -5% to hit.
- Spears give +20 melee attack on basic attacks, swords +10.
- You get +5 for each ally adjacent to what you are attacking, +10 with the backstabber perk. So surround as much as possible before attacking.
- Axes can destroy shields, improving your chances dramatically.
- The Fast adaption perk gives +8 for every prior attack that missed.
- Obviously high melee / ranged attack is important to hit things. I would advise to stick with spears if melee attack is 60 or lower. Or give bros with low matk axes to smash shields.
Edit:
- Height advantage gives +10.
- Flail basic attacks ignore the -15 passive protection of hostile shield users.
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Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:44pm 
Well it isnt artificial but simply logic , as you are starting and early game is pretty rought as you have no economy going and the people you get are really low lvl and non skilled, certain weapons such as swords and spears wich have bonus accuracy and the use of tactics helps with that in adition that if you see someone that seems that wont be expected to have a good enougth mele skill later on you can use the tier 1 skill once you reach lvl2 called fast adaptation that helps aniways on early game , some more beginner basic tips quoted from turtle on a recent thread are :

Early game is pretty rough because you have no armor. Those 10 durability shirts the clowns you hire start with are garbage.

Start with high funds and beginner economy while you are learning. Check the starting towns are try and find some cheap 65-80 shirts if you can. If they are partially damaged you can get a good deal. Make sure everyone has at least a 30 hat to start off.

It is better to have 6 bros with decent gear than 12 bros in rags. Game scaling depends somewhat on number of bros you have. Gear doesn't factor into any scaling.

Also a good idea to give everyone shields early on. You can't take hits so you need to try and avoid them. 15 melee defense round shield will help a lot. Don't try to use that 2Hand Woodcutter Axe that Axebro starts with.

You can steal armor from your enemies using the secondary Puncture skill on daggers. Good way to get free upgrades at the end of won battles. Enemy needs to die with their armor intact for this to work (you can damage it somewhat but not all the way). Flails are also good for this since they can aim for the head specifically, leaving the body intact.

*Psdt. its about learning and choosing wisely + managin risks , early on dont go for example for beasts or even beeing really early any other kind of enemy other than brigands , nets help as well with hard fights even if you use one or 2 total within a fight to minimize the danger and inflict more dps , you can find em on port towns , woudnt recommend starting as the full experience is intended wich is on ironman but with savefiles and dont forget on beginner

Rng is true meaning non rigged either against or in favour of the player , been tested largely by ppl within the player comunity and third parties as well , it can throw you off abitt in that regard as many other system of the same style from other games are indeed rigged in favour of the player , switch to savefiles , get some knowleadge , the learning curve is stepe , either do that or embrace directly what happends thou that way you will loose a ton while learning wich is cool in a way , trust it , is what i did myself and now affter nearly 1k houres in my case i woudnt consider myself more than average , but thats just me as i dont go for perfection neither carefull enought
Last edited by Anarchist Wolf; Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:50pm
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Heron Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:50pm 
It's pure chance if you hit or miss, but you can do some things to maximise your chances to hit. A quick rundown:

- The easy difficulty slightly cheats in your favor. You have a hidden +5 % to hit, enemies have a hidden -5% to hit.
- Spears give +20 melee attack on basic attacks, swords +10.
- You get +5 for each ally adjacent to what you are attacking, +10 with the backstabber perk. So surround as much as possible before attacking.
- Axes can destroy shields, improving your chances dramatically.
- The Fast adaption perk gives +8 for every prior attack that missed.
- Obviously high melee / ranged attack is important to hit things. I would advise to stick with spears if melee attack is 60 or lower. Or give bros with low matk axes to smash shields.
Edit:
- Height advantage gives +10.
- Flail basic attacks ignore the -15 passive protection of hostile shield users.
Last edited by Heron; Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:23pm
Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:51pm 
bump*(making sure as i have the bad habit nowadays of editing all the time )
turtle225 Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:52pm 
Spears get +20 hit chance. Swords get +10. Flails ignore shields (+15 against round shield brigands). You want to use these types of weapons early on when your bros stink.
MisterRed Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:58pm 
I don't know which to mark as answer here. Two different but correct answers to choose from. But I got far enough to equip my entire line with leather armor or chainmail with nasalhelm, but my equipment is limited to spears, spears, and three bowmen, So the best solution for me is probably to equip my bros with flails and axes, assuming that I can give them those like I gave my archers daggers. Chopping down shields and ignoring them seems like my best bet
Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:59pm 
Need some help /want more beginnner tips? most topics and doubts in adition of tips around x circustances or enemys are already tackled around the forums so you can look em up by yourelf if you choose to , there are guides as well that can help ,a fan wiki as well with in depth details or do feel free to post your own topics if you dont find x details or preffer to do so , comunity as you can see is pretty engaging and trie to be helpfull , do ask anything else if you want on this existing one, dont give up and welcome to battle brothers

Wish you all to have a nice day , fun at games and to stay safe out there
Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 2:59pm 
Mark wichever you want , not my one for example if you preffer , is pretty dmn long xd
Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:00pm 
Btw .. ayee you said two different but correct answers .. good way to start , keep your mind open , just remember that you arent a hero in any of the meanings from other games , death is around the corner and ussuall , minimize looses and move on , not gonna lie u get attached in many ways to the bros but still xd
Last edited by Anarchist Wolf; Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:06pm
Heron Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by turtle225:
Spears get +20 hit chance. Swords get +10. Flails ignore shields (+15 against round shield brigands). You want to use these types of weapons early on when your bros stink.

Worth noting that flails only ignore shields with the basic left attack. You need the flail mastery perk for the secondary attack to ignore shields too.
Heron Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:18pm 
Originally posted by MisterRed:
I don't know which to mark as answer here. Two different but correct answers to choose from. But I got far enough to equip my entire line with leather armor or chainmail with nasalhelm, but my equipment is limited to spears, spears, and three bowmen, So the best solution for me is probably to equip my bros with flails and axes, assuming that I can give them those like I gave my archers daggers. Chopping down shields and ignoring them seems like my best bet

Spears are the go to early weapon, you're fine. Your bowmen (poachers origin?) may want pitchforks / spetums except for one until their ranged attack exceeds their melee attack. One or two axes can definitely help. Flails can be great but I personally want semi decent matk (60+) and preferably good fatigue even on early users. Bear in mind that spears (+20) are more accurate than flails (+0 / +15) even against shields.

But just try, nothing is written in stone. This is just very broad guidance.
Last edited by Heron; Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:42pm
Anarchist Wolf Apr 28, 2021 @ 3:36pm 
Oh , get some polearms going early asap evne if are tier 1 and low mele skill user on the second line at least one even beeing a pitchfork
Eranak Apr 29, 2021 @ 11:23am 
I will add that it is good to consider your starting position as that of a lvl 1 character in an old school dungeon crawl. Until you can get better items and some skills you'll only want to fight the lowest trash mobs in the game (that would be bandit thugs) and take non combat quests. The equivalent of murdering giant rats until you can progress to goblins. It shouldn't take to long to transition into bigger stuff, maybe one or two in game weeks.
Last edited by Eranak; Apr 29, 2021 @ 11:24am
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