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elleseljr Apr 21, 2021 @ 8:16am
Tooltip hit chance displayed is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
There is admitted ten percent buffs to Rng on easy so why not reveal what's going on for expert instead of just pissing players off.
I'm guessing plus 20 for player rolls and minus 20 for Ai.
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gazomierz Apr 21, 2021 @ 8:49am 
You're guessing wrong. Only Beginner difficulty affects rolls, and it's to player advantage. Higher difficulties don't alter rolls in any way, there is no bias towards the AI or towards the player. Higher difficulties affect exonomy, contracts rewards, and stuff like that. In addition higher tier enemies can appear sooner.
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Chuckie Apr 21, 2021 @ 8:56am 
I am predicting (and hoping) that this thread will get closed soon.
['w'] Apr 21, 2021 @ 9:30am 
a rng sticky post would be a thing :)
Lampros Apr 21, 2021 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by wilb:
a rng sticky post would be a thing :)


It wouldn't convince fools who do not understand probabilities.
Santo Apr 21, 2021 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by wilb:
a rng sticky post would be a thing :)

It's already in the FAQ. But it wouldn't make a difference, believe me. There are, how many, 3? 4? sticky posts asking to remove mods before reporting a bug, and some people still didn't get the message :P

Originally posted by Chuckie:
I am predicting (and hoping) that this thread will get closed soon.

I allow them, as tiresome as they can get, until they become toxic or repetitive. In this case, there was a legitimate question behind the rant -- OP did not know that Expert doesn't give or take % from the AI or the player.

Originally posted by Lampros:
It wouldn't convince fools who do not understand probabilities.

Please, don't start calling names. It will only escalate things.
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['w'] Apr 21, 2021 @ 9:47am 
rng and negative connotation
Anarchist Wolf Apr 21, 2021 @ 1:25pm 
Many games have biassed , rigged in favour or not of the player or plain broken rng , thats why some ppl jump here and start to assume things .. what happends on expert? idk personally affter 1k houres , some say is even easyer in a way than veteran but probably as example axe from chosen goes wuush , this is no free to play mmorpg neither pay to win in any shape or form or a mobile game , it is what it is , idk what are they suposed to be hiding , maybe they know to some extent what are youu hiding but thats probably every other game and company , this one most likely isnt as much into that

Psdt. now lets switch to politics and religion , throw a bitt of phylosophy into it as well , joke , lets leave those aside xD

Have a good day , fun at games and stay safe out there
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Anarchist Wolf Apr 21, 2021 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by gazomierz:
You're guessing wrong. Only Beginner difficulty affects rolls, and it's to player advantage. Higher difficulties don't alter rolls in any way, there is no bias towards the AI or towards the player. Higher difficulties affect exonomy, contracts rewards, and stuff like that. In addition higher tier enemies can appear sooner.


this is your answer + number of enemys scale more i belive
Zyenu Apr 21, 2021 @ 4:59pm 
Feels rigged for sure, its why I uninstalled it, I'm going back in when the DLC's are on sale
Anarchist Wolf Apr 21, 2021 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by Zyenu:
Feels rigged for sure, its why I uninstalled it, I'm going back in when the DLC's are on sale

Up to you , its been tested and checked largely by ppl within the comunity and third parties , ones like xcom are rigged in favour of the player plus you have to take in consideration that there are more mechanics involved within combat , sure thing is a hard game and the learning curve is high and lengthy more so depending of the kind of player one is as for myself i well know less with 1k houres than many others with a lot less playtime , one can do even research on the fan wiki for indepth details or look around the forums as most themes and tips are tackled already , early game is the most difficult and many woud say intursting at least in a way and depending of your taste and goals , its made alike and one coud aply some basic logic to it as for example is obvius that some peasants with leather, fiber or low armor ,unexperienced and non skilled in both ways are really weak vs .. well every other foe , for some is hard to get into the game as a tip i woud say to at least start on beginner and with savefiles 1 or 2 campaings for the duration of 1 or 2 crisis each at least and to do some research of your own for basic tips , you can start topics on your own althou look up your doubts first better as again ud probably find the stuff you are seekin for easily and faster without waiting for answers .

Please dont give up on the game , promise ud have a blast with it , by today standars dlcs gives a ton of content but chalenges comes with it ofc as ul deal with more different kinds of enemies with the correspondient more reliable way of dealin with them involvin different strategys , equipment and builds so isnt a bad idea to start playing the base game for a bitt aniways wich by itself woud give u hundreds upon hundreds of houres thou indeed again woud recommend once you get into to switch and add some dlcs to the equation as are great and for once worth it compared to other companys and games .Note that in fact just so you know dlcs ,sadly in a way, never get in sales wich for the old players is more than understandable but woud indeed help to atract new players thou again are well worth it including the price

Hope you give it another shot, remember that really the rng isnt rigged in any shape of form and that game is that hard , more so at the begining needin to know what you are doing and to manage your income and putin thought into buying x weapons and armor early that coud help you for x kind of eneies and contracts if you so choose to tackle em , daggers are really ussefull pucturin armor without damagin it ergo havin higher chances to loot it so thats another way or at least agood adition to supply your men with it

Have a good day , fun at games and stay safe out there

Pdst . Again , i still struggle as for beeing careless and with bad luck affter all isnt a game that holds your hand neither a storylined one but a sandbox procedual generated survival in a way, for many isnt even about the destiny but the travel as is in a way a storyteller with different outcomes and nuances each time you play ,isnt neither meant to survive allways without loosing bros on combat but to replace em , even full combacks affter only 1 survivor are posible to not say even meant to happend at some point playing the true way thou is up to one to do so or not , personally i dont like it and give up when it happends that badly but one thing is certain and is that aniways one is suposed to replace low tier ppl for different and higher ones aniways at some point
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Anarchist Wolf Apr 21, 2021 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by Zyenu:
Feels rigged for sure, its why I uninstalled it, I'm going back in when the DLC's are on sale

A quote, at least reasonable and grey , from recent one of the endless threads about rng happening since forever no matter how many ppl test it :

Just a note for the chanters of "its proven, shut up".

A large scale statistical analysis proves the veracity of the underlying RNG engine but can obfuscate aberrations that only happen under specific circumstances.

If the analysis is done on 100,000 rolls and all numbers 1-100 have roughly 1,000 occurrences that shows the overall RNG is true but an aberration that only happens a couple dozen times would not show up since the numbers are not statistically significant in the large data set.

With that said, as players we have been conditioned to having an advantage in the behind the scenes numbers. In role playing games the GM does not want to wipe the party so will give extra chances or maybe fudge numbers on occasion to prevent that. Video games continued that since you are the hero of the story and your success is given extra tools.

Playing games like this where your only advantage is your brain that can use the pre-set attack patterns of the enemies against them is a hard adjustment no matter how long you play this amazing game. It goes against the conditioning most games gave given you.
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My own thoughts about and opinion shortened is that i coincide that ppl are too used to games that take you fully by the hand and rigg everythinf in your favour to not say that you are basically meant to win normally in an easy storyline for the duration of 10 or 20 houres then when they find some that doesnt and where you arent even suposed to win * completly with tons of replayability plus true rng involved wich althou is less undermining in regard of purely combatonce you get going and know what one is doing simply rage about it: not me fault , game flawed... nah its meant to be alike , embrace it or not is up to oneself but id say take it for what it is and pick the challenge , there are many generes out there as well , this is just another one and to be fair not many are even close to what battle brothers is
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Anarchist Wolf Apr 21, 2021 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Zyenu:
Feels rigged for sure, its why I uninstalled it, I'm going back in when the DLC's are on sale

Wich word did you use to start your statement?yeah , thats the problem as i stated and extent about previusly above , give it another shot at some point , you will enjoy it alot, no dlc is going to help you get into it in that matter as while some other mechanics , armor etc may well help you in some instances as for income and survival in certain circustances they do come as well with a variety of new enemys and challenges that in a way increase the difficulty , more so to someone that uninstalls on early game , when the weather ppl talk about that there are x degrees of temperature but feels like y they dont have a feeling guy backstage but it is based on data and mathematics .If you ever buy dlcs as you shoud(while the very base game that was alike for years gives you hundreds of houres min ) and hope that eventually you do affter gettin more into the game you can not only but maybe recommended in a way add em up one by one playing some campaings before addin the next one on top so you dont really have to buy the 3 of em at once as to be fair il repit it from one of my lasts post on the threads and in fact related about it in others is a shame that they dont really get on sales at all simply cause while is understandable in a way , from the point of view of an outsider, potential customer or new ish player into it is indeed as well that woud be better looking if they were discounted at times

Have a good day , fun at games and stay safe out there
XuanKamoFurio Apr 21, 2021 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Zyenu:
Feels rigged for sure, its why I uninstalled it, I'm going back in when the DLC's are on sale

I've made like 6-7 YT series of battle brothers, with hundreds of battles in every campaign, with hundreds of dice rolls in every battle, and I have NEVER seen the RNG rigged.

What always see from people complaining about the RNG is the bros exposed and vulnerable because concepts like defending the flanks, or don't isolate any bro are too hard to understand for them
Dokterrampstein Apr 21, 2021 @ 11:32pm 
Sometimes RNG giveth, sometimes RNG takenth.
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TaroEld Apr 22, 2021 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by Anarchist Wolf:
A large scale statistical analysis proves the veracity of the underlying RNG engine but can obfuscate aberrations that only happen under specific circumstances.

If the analysis is done on 100,000 rolls and all numbers 1-100 have roughly 1,000 occurrences that shows the overall RNG is true but an aberration that only happens a couple dozen times would not show up since the numbers are not statistically significant in the large data set.
Streaking was tested too and was found to be slightly less like than expected to occur.
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