camp composition keeps changing

[tez3me]

last couple of runs evrytime i go to enter a camp with a brigand leader it changes to marksmen and raiders only,is this a bug or am i just being very unlucky?

[Eriktion]

I think this happens when you discover the camp ... kill the roaming units that belong to that camp (weakening the camp) and then attack the camp - it will not update the contents till you enter the fight - I would consider this a bug that its not updating

[turtle225]

I've seen this happen on Sea of Tents where it will say something like Few Bersekers, Many Warriors but then flip the script when I go to enter to Many Berserkers and Few Warriors.

Might have happened the other way around also. Idk, always double check the window that pops up when you go to engage to be sure.

[tez3me]

the thing is it has happened as i entered evrytime,i havent killed roaming enemies in most cases and in one case it actually downgraded a 1300 crowns job to 6 thugs and a poacher

[tez3me]

thx for the responses,very irritatin when u live on hunted armour and can't fight leaders :p

[Flharfh]

I believe if you take a contract to clear a pre-existing site on the map, the site will re-generate enemies to match the level of the contract. Maybe that's the issue you're having.

[suejak]

My impression is that camp contents will sometimes differ from what you were told at various points of discovery. So you'll see certain contents from far away and then it'll change once you try to go in. Or it will tell you one thing immediately before you jump in, but then it'll be different once you're inside.

I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it feels like a simulation of "imperfect" battlefield intelligence and also a way of making the game harder.

Could be a bug, though.

[shaihulud]

I had one today that changed from bandit marksmen and raiders to raiders and a Leader. They paid me a bonus for that leader's head, above the contract price.

[Kernest]

Originally posted by shaihulud:

I had one today that changed from bandit marksmen and raiders to raiders and a Leader. They paid me a bonus for that leader's head, above the contract price.

That's an event that happens sometimes with bandit contracts, nothing unusual about it.

Since picking the game back up after the DLC, I've noticed a few times the composition changing as well, can't recall whether it was during a contract or not (aside from the intented event-related changes such as that Brigand leader one, Orcs fighting each other or Goblin ambush).

[McGrits]

This happened a bit before the DLC and seems to happen a bit more since the DLC came out. I think it is a feature and not a bug, unfortunately. It gets annoying when a camp displays one thing and you have to fight a different compostiion.

[Zanalani]

Originally posted by Flharfh:

I believe if you take a contract to clear a pre-existing site on the map, the site will re-generate enemies to match the level of the contract. Maybe that's the issue you're having.

Based on my similar experiences this is what is happening but I think there is a bug in play.

I don't think the game scales contract difficulty based on merc size/avg level until after you save and relog. This is most noticeable when I start a new game (expert/expert) and level my group up to 11 on a single play through. At this point I still get plenty of contracts that regenerate camps with only thugs/poachers which shouldn't happen at that level. The moment I relog I start seeing contracts with 15+ raider/marksman/leader.

So the game probably had raiders/leader at first but the moment you accepted the contracts it changed it to thugs/poacher.

[tez3me]

could be the case i suppose.gettin 6 thugs n a poacher for 1300 was weird tho :D

[goetic2amtxt]

i posted about this in the bugs forums

i didnt kill any wandering squads and nobody left the camp. all the orc young turned into ork berserkers when ia ttacked a camp one time. another time raiders turned into thugs