Is a Decayed Great Helm worth it?

[Hiccups]

Hey guys I just got a decayed great helm from a fallen hero with 255 durability, -22 fatigue amd -3 vision. Is it worth it to use or should I just get a different helm. Most of my melee are wearing padded kettle hats so I'm wondering if the - fatigue will be worth the tradeoff for more head armor?

[chandl34]

If you've got a character with plenty of fatigue to spare, sure.

[Kill'em ALL]

It's really easy to apply a rule of thumb here: aim for as much armor as your fatigue limit allows. Basically figure out a minimum amount of "usable" fatigue that you want to have on your brother (for me it's 70 but it's a matter of personal preference, really) in your mind at all times when choosing gear. If a particular piece gives you more armor while still keepig you above minimum - it's worth it, if it takes you below that minimum - it's not worth it.

[Hiccups]

The thing is I'm not sure my guys can spare the fatigue. My melee line consists of a lumberjack, 2 thieves, a brawler, 2 apprentices, a daytaler and a wildman.

[Rude$t]

It can be. If a character has Brawny and decent Fatigue pool. Recover helps too. If the character isn't using much fatigue, like a polearm guy, it won't hurt. Your lumberjack and Wildman potentially have lots of Fatigue. If you don't feel comfortable using it yet I'd hold onto it until you do or have better.

[Chat Is Muted, Sorry]

Usually the answer is yes, it's a good piece of armor to wear in the mid game, on a guy with tons of fatigue like a farmhand, who has relatively low offense anyway, because he's using a shield and one hander

But it's not worth it if it gets you into dangerously low fatigue territory, where you will not be able to do your basic functions like rotating or shield walling or spear walling

And if you have a guy who needs his fatigue to translate it into lots of damage, then you usually don't want him to wear it, unless he has more fatigue than you can quickly use up

[Hiccups]

My lumberjack is actually my longsword aoe at lvl 10 with 96 fatigue with the padded kettle helm and my lvl 7 wildman is one of my potential super tank with 87 fatigue with the same helm. That suggestion with using it on my polearm guy would be interesting. The polearm guy does have 87 with the same padded kettle helm.

[chandl34]

You mean 96 fatigue after gear? That's more than enough.

[Piggy]

I'd usually keep a 60 fatigue left over as limit. And that helmet looks cool so I'd without doubt use it.

[daniel.123]

Once you get a full helm it's only for aesthetic reasons really

[Gharpar]

It's a stopgap helmet. Fatigue to armor ratio is bad for all the decayed gear that you can get from fallen heros. If you get it early you might use it for a while but fairly soon you will want to replace it.

As for fatigue levels: 60 seems very low to me. Might be ok if you pick the "recover" perk on all your brothers. General I would tend to use 80 as the minimum on any brother who is supposed to serve as a damage dealer. Lower might be acceptable on a pure tank, but I rarely use those. The best defense is the ability to reduce enemy numbers quickly and for that one needs greatswords and 2h-hammers.

[Path]

Originally posted by daniel.123:

Once you get a full helm it's only for aesthetic reasons really

Which is the most important of all. Surely I'm not the only one using the editor to change the look of my helms to decayed ones (because they're easily the coolest in the game)?

[Silverbeard]

I'm sorry but I cannot stomach the thought of stuffing any of my bros into a closed helm that some guy was buried in and then got up from the grave wearing.
That thing must be loaded with so much bacteria that you'd probably die of tetatus just by sniffing it. And I want my bros to be marching about the place inhaling that junk?
Not happening.

[McGrits]

The decayed armor is a good set for higher fatigue bros during the in the transition from the early to the midgame. A nice thing about them is that they will help with the heavy armor ambition since they are all above 230.

[Tephros83]

Originally posted by Silverbeard:

I'm sorry but I cannot stomach the thought of stuffing any of my bros into a closed helm that some guy was buried in and then got up from the grave wearing.
That thing must be loaded with so much bacteria that you'd probably die of tetatus just by sniffing it. And I want my bros to be marching about the place inhaling that junk?
Not happening.

Guessing you don't eat the strange meat either then, lol.

[Silverbeard]

Originally posted by Tephros83:

Originally posted by Silverbeard:

I'm sorry but I cannot stomach the thought of stuffing any of my bros into a closed helm that some guy was buried in and then got up from the grave wearing.
That thing must be loaded with so much bacteria that you'd probably die of tetatus just by sniffing it. And I want my bros to be marching about the place inhaling that junk?
Not happening.

Guessing you don't eat the strange meat either then, lol.

Strange meat is at least easier to stomach (pun intended). Just cook that over a fire until well done and you can at least be reasonably sure that you're not going to die of tularemic fever or food poisoning. But you can't really sterilize a massive closed-face helm, can you? At least not without an autoclave.