Anyone reach "end game" with Lone Wolf yet?

[Lampros]

I mean, have any of you done the most difficulty content or are close to it? The reason I ask is that I am really worried if end game content will be too much when you in fact have 2-3 injured guys, and you are forced to field 9-10 - or even lower. I would assume, unlike other Origins, the difficulty curve will only increase with Lone Wolf, and I worry if this will prove to be too much.

[Lampros]

引用自 Tephros83：

Why aren't injuries a problem? Well first because by late game you have a lot of resources, and so even if you don't keep a reasonable emergency fund (and you're more able to do so), you can sell off stuff in reverse order of importance. Thus, you can avoid battle for 5 days and not get into trouble.

Second, guys have either nimble with high hp or heavy armor, and so only major hits are causing injuries. Heavy crossbows and 2h weapons. Your merc is more likely to die from many hits than reach the injury threshold, at least compared to early game.

As for level 30 guys... it helps but it seems like running 11 guys until you think your roster is as good as it can be would be a higher priority (sometimes 12 to get a new guy competent before firing an inferior old guy). Amazingly talented level 20 guys are going to be better than lower quality level 30 guys.

I generally don't like hybrids, but with no reserve guys I can see the logic for this origin.

Well, the reason I think injuries are a problem is that in some cases you cannot avoid fighting when multiple forces are near you. But I guess it's because I am a clumsy navigator on the map! ;)

Also, I am not sure if great level 20 guys are better than mediocre level 30 guys. It's a difference of some 30 stat points! ;)

[Hastar]

I just killed the Barbarian King with this group. Was a pretty easy battle. My axe guy turned into a 2 handed cleaver man. I found a great 2 handed cleaver where you fight the mad barbarian one on one and also get his helmet that I have no idea what to do with yet.


That special one on one battle is where the Lone Wolf shines. It was a hard fight and he made me bleed twice but I crushed his armor and it was a good fight. A battle to the death, where game over if I lose.

I have not made any mini sergeants this game. My guys have pretty good resolve and I have had no problems against 24 undead with 6 geists and 1 necro. I still may turn one of my spearmen into mini sergeants. They are both lvl 10 and will think about it when I hit lvl 11.

I'm on day 157. Think I will keep going before I try another origin. Has been a fun campaign. I don't think there's anyway this group could beat the kracken or the Black Monolith but I didn't make the band to do that.

[Lampros]

引用自 Hastar：

I just killed the Barbarian King with this group. Was a pretty easy battle. My axe guy turned into a 2 handed cleaver man. I found a great 2 handed cleaver where you fight the mad barbarian one on one and also get his helmet that I have no idea what to do with yet.


That special one on one battle is where the Lone Wolf shines. It was a hard fight and he made me bleed twice but I crushed his armor and it was a good fight. A battle to the death, where game over if I lose.

I have not made any mini sergeants this game. My guys have pretty good resolve and I have had no problems against 24 undead with 6 geists and 1 necro. I still may turn one of my spearmen into mini sergeants. They are both lvl 10 and will think about it when I hit lvl 11.

I'm on day 157. Think I will keep going before I try another origin. Has been a fun campaign. I don't think there's anyway this group could beat the kracken or the Black Monolith but I didn't make the band to do that.

There is a 2H cleaver? You sure? Link?

And what are the average Resolves of your characters? I am finding that my guys can't go over 60 even with Fortified Mind, and I am not sure if that is worth it.

As for the Kraken or the Monolith: What if you strung out your campaign until level 20-plus? Imz Frozen does that, and I am going to try and see how strong such a group can get. But the biggest issue may be that I will always be running with 11 characters, because I'd always leave that last spot free for the 1 better recruit. So it may be never-ending! ;)

[Hastar]

First battle with ancient undead went well. There were 2 honor guards and one undead priest with them. No injuries and took only a few hits. Seems like they increased the damage from bows on skeletons. 16 total with 8 pikeman. I was worried my group wouldn't fair as good against the ancient undead.

Got rid of my hammer brother because I found a sellsword with amazing stats and stars. Will turn him into a 2 handed hammer brother.

[Hastar]

It's called a Chosen Fleshcutter. Got it from a special site where you pick one brother (I picked my lone wolf) to fight a barbarian mad man that is being controlled by something. You also get a special helmet when you kill him but don't know what to do with it.

[Lampros]

引用自 Hastar：

First battle with ancient undead went well. There were 2 honor guards and one undead priest with them. No injuries and took only a few hits. Seems like they increased the damage from bows on skeletons. 16 total with 8 pikeman. I was worried my group wouldn't fair as good against the ancient undead.

Got rid of my hammer brother because I found a sellsword with amazing stats and stars. Will turn him into a 2 handed hammer brother.

Hmm, I thought only crossbows got additional damage with the patch, not bows. I will have to re-read - there was a lot of stuff!

What will you turn the Sellsword into?

For my part, I am having amazing luck with excellent recruits this game. The last game I played to about 120 days, I had 1 permanent "keeper" outside of the Lone Wolf. For the current game at 60 days, I have a whopping 5 already (albeit 1 of the keepers is the gone I re-loaded the seed for to get a 2nd strong character at the first castle - so I can start with 2 uber characters).

Edit: No ranged yet, however. And that worries me.

[Hastar]

The Sellsword will turn into a 2 handed hammer merc for Orc heavy armor. I have 4 really good ranged units and they are tearing humans up. What worries me only 1 is any good with melee weapons. Will have to give them long axes to break shields for some fights.

I was close to starting the raider origin but I'm having too much fun with this campaign.

[Mr.Oscar]

I See The Alone Wolf Great And Challenging. Using A Shield Build You Can Fight Even Outnumbered. 1 v 5 easy, but 1 v 7 is the max befor gets intresting bepends of the gear

[Lampros]

引用自 Hastar：

The Sellsword will turn into a 2 handed hammer merc for Orc heavy armor. I have 4 really good ranged units and they are tearing humans up. What worries me only 1 is any good with melee weapons. Will have to give them long axes to break shields for some fights.

I was close to starting the raider origin but I'm having too much fun with this campaign.

Yeah, humans are no problem; it's the more heavily armored Orcs and Ancient Undead that will be a main problem with a ranged-centric build.

引用自 Mr.OskarinPeliVideoTalo：

I See The Alone Wolf Great And Challenging. Using A Shield Build You Can Fight Even Outnumbered. 1 v 5 easy, but 1 v 7 is the max befor gets intresting bepends of the gear

I wouldn't go literally alone. Even for my first fight, I brought 2 others; and I generally ran 5-6 characters the first 60-70 days. Now I run 8, since I really got lucky with early recruits, and there are a lot of "keepers."

[BrowneHawk]

Im on the lone wolf run. Been wondering whats gonna happen late game also. Currently building out my warband like a normal one with archers and frontline.

I'm now starting to wonder if you're better off shooting for all tank heavy armor. Not sure how my ranged will hold up. Gonna play it and find out though.

[Lampros]

引用自 BrowneHawk：

Im on the lone wolf run. Been wondering whats gonna happen late game also. Currently building out my warband like a normal one with archers and frontline.

I'm now starting to wonder if you're better off shooting for all tank heavy armor. Not sure how my ranged will hold up. Gonna play it and find out though.

I am going to put at least 1 archer in heavy armor, simply because he's got Paranoid (-30 Initiative) and also insane Melee Attack (57) as well as Melee Defense for a ranged guy. I will then likely have 1 pure archer, 1 crossbow/pike hybrid, and 1 throwing weapons/pike hybrid.

[filipov.petar]

I'm at day 250, with only 7 man group.
Bandits, Barbarians and animals are massacred, but I avoid orcs and undead(with gheists) like the plague (no bannerman yet, and I'm thinking of skipping him as a whole, everybody picks fortified mind instead)
1 shield bro, 1 ranged guy that I found recently, the rest go with variations of 2 handed stuff :)
Hardest defeated enemies so far - 3 shrats/ 20+ barbarian king groups (I've killed a lot of barbarian kings since my map seed has 3-4 forts in close proximity and the quest spawns often).
DIfficulty Expert, w/o ironman (the occasional load spam is needed to avoid alps and such)

[Lampros]

引用自 filipov.petar：

I'm at day 250, with only 7 man group.
Bandits, Barbarians and animals are massacred, but I avoid orcs and undead(with gheists) like the plague (no bannerman yet, and I'm thinking of skipping him as a whole, everybody picks fortified mind instead)
1 shield bro, 1 ranged guy that I found recently, the rest go with variations of 2 handed stuff :)
Hardest defeated enemies so far - 3 shrats/ 20+ barbarian king groups (I've killed a lot of barbarian kings since my map seed has 3-4 forts in close proximity and the quest spawns often).
DIfficulty Expert, w/o ironman (the occasional load spam is needed to avoid alps and such)

What level are your guys? And will you eventually grow to a 12-man band? Finally, I'd like to see some stats and Backgrounds/Traits on guys you decided to keep.

I decided to start recruiting Cultists: Since I will play till level 20-beyond anyways, why not go for Davkul gear, too? ;)

[Lampros]

Can you guys check and post how many fights in how many days your Lone Wolf has participated in? It looks like my Lone Wolf has done far fewer fights than would be the case in a normal run. That's to be expected, given the reduced roster. But I am shocked at the degree.

I am wondering if I will have money problems even with a reduced roster, precisely because I fight far less often.

[Sonic Boomer]

I have to admit, I alt+f4 one time during my lone wolf ironman campaign when I did a raid mission and a noble army showed up and ambushed me way faster than I could pause the game and go in another direction. There really needs to be an option to pause the game everytime an army is spotted...

The big issue with lone wolf ironman (or just lone wolf for that matter) is that you can't have a reserve. On that mission alone, I was jumped by a noble army, another mercenary group, and the other noble army. After 3 days of raiding, most of my bros had injuries and I needed over 60 tools to repair all my gear. Not being able to switch out with reservists sucks because the injured bros were at a high risk to die. When you're at day 100 of your campaign, losing a single bro sucks... and I already lost 2 in the big battle before that mission....

When I alt+f4ed, I tried to retreat from the last noble army, only to have my avatar get engaged by a single war dog and he died...... thought the game was kind of cheap there, considering how bad wardogs are in melee and that my avatar had a huge defense rating. Rest of the army caught on and encircled my avatar...