Does anyone smash Orc Warrior shields?

[Diveyoc]

From what I read, most people just go with hammers against orcs. I saw a named axe that did 62 shield damage, with axe mastery that adds 50% so 93 shield damage I assume. You could take out an Orc Warrior shield in 1 turn and rotate out.

Just wondering if anyone does this and finds it effective.

[Not a Bard]

Yikes, that's a good shield smasher and could be a build. Is it two handed?

But yeah, I just go around. 80-90 attack will hit them pretty consistently.

[Whatever100500]

Orc Warriors have very low Mdef. High level bros should simply hit them through shield.

Smashing on the other hand costs you AP + fatigue (even more if your Rotate out), and IF you fail to kill/rout Orc Warrior before his turn (which is likely given high hp and armor), he'll just own you with doublegrip damage.

Imo shield splitting has good action/fatigue economy only when you can do it in single split from 1h axe and reliably finish off the target before their turn(vs raiders with round shields, goblins and young orcs).

[Diveyoc]

Originally posted by Not a Bard:

Yikes, that's a good shield smasher and could be a build. Is it two handed?

But yeah, I just go around. 80-90 attack will hit them pretty consistently.

Yeah 2H and just one tile range. I wish I would of taken a screenshot. As I recall, normal damage was obviously better than the normal long axe, but not extraordinary. It was the shield damage that caught my eye.

Now that I think of it, surely it would be 1 swing on the schrat shields as well. Those are probably in the 50-70 durability range.

[Whatever100500]

Originally posted by Diveyoc:

Now that I think of it, surely it would be 1 swing on the schrat shields as well. Those are probably in the 50-70 durability range.

Schrats have only 32 shield. 2 splits from Fighting axe/Orc 1h axe or 1 from mastery Longaxe.
2h axe is imo overkill and requires use of Indomitable/Rotate to not be completely exposed to counterattack.

[Diveyoc]

Actually I just looked, I do have a screenshot, just hadn't uploaded it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1759249103

[batteran]

Not that impressive in shield damage, but I like by shield-breaking-bardiche too:

https://zupimages.net/up/19/22/o9qb.jpg

[Diveyoc]

Originally posted by batteran:

Not that impressive in shield damage, but I like by shield-breaking-bardiche too:

https://zupimages.net/up/19/22/o9qb.jpg

Yeah, that's some nice damage.

[nightworg]

I would assume it could make your fights more dangerous. If they don't have a shield they will double grip and hit two times each round.

If they have a shield they sometimes shieldwall wich is better for you I think.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by JohnSmith24601:

Originally posted by Whatever100500:

Orc Warriors have very low Mdef. High level bros should simply hit them through shield.

Smashing on the other hand costs you AP + fatigue (even more if your Rotate out), and IF you fail to kill/rout Orc Warrior before his turn (which is likely given high hp and armor), he'll just own you with doublegrip damage.

Imo shield splitting has good action/fatigue economy only when you can do it in single split from 1h axe and reliably finish off the target before their turn(vs raiders with round shields, goblins and young orcs).

I second this. Elite background bros usually have high enough melee attack to just attack them through the shields. It's way more efficient than spending a few turns trying to smash their super heavy shields. And if you don't have high attack bros, just run from Orcs for now because you're not ready.

I third this. Smashing Orc shields seem like a waste of turn(s).

[Sealer]

Smashing orc shields is a good way to give them 2 attacks per turn and +25% dmg if you want to get rid of some bros

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Sealer:

Smashing orc shields is a good way to give them 2 attacks per turn and +25% dmg if you want to get rid of some bros

Yes, a good point. This is another reason why I don't do it.

[Diveyoc]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Sealer:

Smashing orc shields is a good way to give them 2 attacks per turn and +25% dmg if you want to get rid of some bros

Yes, a good point. This is another reason why I don't do it.

Yeah, when you look at it this way, it probably does more harm than good.

[Shashaveli]

It definitely does more harm than good. I tried it when i first encountered orc warriors back in the day. It did not go well. At all.

[ChemicalBacon]

I try to avoid breaking their shields because orcs double gripping their weapons scares the ♥♥♥♥ out of me. Even with basic units i've never had an issue with them blocking my attacks, I have more issues with that initial clash and the stuns than anything else

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Originally posted by Diveyoc:

From what I read, most people just go with hammers against orcs. I saw a named axe that did 62 shield damage, with axe mastery that adds 50% so 93 shield damage I assume. You could take out an Orc Warrior shield in 1 turn and rotate out.

Just wondering if anyone does this and finds it effective.

I'd rather the orc make a single attack then two with 50% more damage per swing. Also, greatswords work wonders as well.