Hedge Knights turning bandits?

[Sai Kyouji]

https://puu.sh/yhlIP/b8dd844862.png Did that hedge knight just string up his equipments to make a banner?
Man, that's just wrong. Why cant we just get some thing like an upgraded bandit leader (bandit lord or master marksman, master assassin perhaps)

[Mr.Toad]

Uh Hedge Knights are pretty much bandits anyways. They're bad guys. Ever hire one? All they do is harass and kill people and they have positive events associated with any Raider mercs you hire too. You'll only ever fight Hedge Knights with a group of Bandits (or as part of a group of mercs)

By the way master archers already exist. You can fight swordmasters too which i guess would be a assassin of sorts given how hard they are to hit. Both are found in bandit and merc fights.
I once fought 4 master archers, that was a ridiculous fight.

There are no upgraded bandit leaders but it's possible to fight multiple bandit leaders, the max i fought was 4.

[apocal43]

Originally posted by Sai Kyouji:

https://puu.sh/yhlIP/b8dd844862.png Did that hedge knight just string up his equipments to make a banner?
Man, that's just wrong.

That isn't his equipment, just so you know...

[Sai Kyouji]

Originally posted by HypnoToad:

Uh Hedge Knights are pretty much bandits anyways. They're bad guys. Ever hire one? All they do is harass and kill people and they have positive events associated with any Raider mercs you hire too. You'll only ever fight Hedge Knights with a group of Bandits (or as part of a group of mercs)

By the way master archers already exist. You can fight swordmasters too which i guess would be a assassin of sorts given how hard they are to hit. Both are found in bandit and merc fights.
I once fought 4 master archers, that was a ridiculous fight.

There are no upgraded bandit leaders but it's possible to fight multiple bandit leaders, the max i fought was 4.

Derp, so much for chivalry. Protecting the weak and upholding the laws oaths my 4rse.
Guess Im still only at mid game. There are still a lot I havent killed huh ...

[Pringles™]

What makes a knight? Historically and romantically speaking, the honour that is bestowed upon them by a noble authority and the oaths they take to uphold.

Hedge Knights are not crowned by a fancy-pants nobleman and they dont unhold any oaths. They just wear three layers of steel and ram steel down peasants' or occasionally soldiers' throats, without any of that honourable stuff.

So.. yeah, they aint real knights, boi. They just get all the benefits, with none of the responsibilities.
And with irresponsibility comes the lust for murder c:

[Mr.Toad]

What actually doesn't make sense is a swordmaster being a bandit. Hedge knights are always characterized as cruel and bloodthirsty and self-serving. But the humble swordmaster is understanding and wise. We I guess it isnt too farfetched to see a incredibly skilled swordsman as a bandit - and it is also very rare.

[apocal43]

Originally posted by HypnoToad:

What actually doesn't make sense is a swordmaster being a bandit. Hedge knights are always characterized as cruel and bloodthirsty and self-serving. But the humble swordmaster is understanding and wise. We I guess it isnt too farfetched to see a incredibly skilled swordsman as a bandit - and it is also very rare.

You can be good at something and still be a complete prick otherwise.

[Sai Kyouji]

Originally posted by apocal43:

Originally posted by HypnoToad:

What actually doesn't make sense is a swordmaster being a bandit. Hedge knights are always characterized as cruel and bloodthirsty and self-serving. But the humble swordmaster is understanding and wise. We I guess it isnt too farfetched to see a incredibly skilled swordsman as a bandit - and it is also very rare.

You can be good at something and still be a complete prick otherwise.

I think what he meant is that men of such skills would never have had to stoop so low as becoming bandits.

[IspartaPratapon]

Hedge knights are also useful in a few events to intimidate people (because not only are they battle-hardened and often bloodthirsty and cruel - not exactly the most honorable people, after all - they are, to a man, all gigantic!) They also have an event to take the piss out of a squire which will improve their resolve.

I like them mostly for flavor, but the fact that they tend often to have generous stats is also a bonus. Sellswords often have attack and defense on par or exceeding them, but their fatigue and hp is almost always lower, especially so in the former case.

[Sai Kyouji]

hmm this is very strange. I only saw hedge knight replacing bandit leader one time. After that, I just get multiple bandit leaders.

[espritcrafter]

Originally posted by Sai Kyouji:

Originally posted by apocal43:

You can be good at something and still be a complete prick otherwise.

I think what he meant is that men of such skills would never have had to stoop so low as becoming bandits.

Yeah, but if you read your battle brothers' background stories, it's not uncommon for someone to be setup by their employer and/or scapegoated for something. It's not hard to imagine that the swordmaster accidentally caused the death of a noble's child or was exhiled for humiliating someone important.

Desperate times easily leads to desperate measures... and sticking the pointy end of a stick into another person is his specialty.