Fighting Undead Legion no fun?

[Schopenhauer]

Is it just me or is fighting the Undead Legion not nearly as much fun as fighting the other factions?
Thanks to the "new" necros, zombies can be fun, I really like the blood suckers, but the Legion? I can appreciate that you need different tactics for them, but...

[Terrarius]

Ranged is useless against them making some merc companys very weak

[willsama974]

Originally posted by Terrarius:

Ranged is useless against them making some merc companys very weak

Or, when you know you'll face Ancient Deads you switch from crossbow/bow to throwing axes and your range specialists get far from useless.

[MHC]

I've come to the conclusion that the big honkin' warhammer is the Cadillac of weapons. Good against undead, great against armored targets (Which is everything after a while), still decent against unarmored targets. All weapons are situationally useful (Except cleavers, I'm still not sold on those) but hammers don't seem to have any major weaknesses.

[Schopenhauer]

But do you like fighting them?
I prefere Bandit, orcs, goblins over them...

[Sir Clavius]

I like undeads.

[willsama974]

Originally posted by Schopenhauer:

But do you like fighting them?
I prefere Bandit, orcs, goblins over them...

Sorry didn't get that^^ Yes i like them in a weird way, they are the ones that scare me the most along with top tier humans with top tier gear.

[Schopenhauer]

Then maybe its just me.
I think its a mixture of their defensive behavior, not so rewarding loot and lack of feedback (crushing living things, breaking morale... Stuff like that)

[Slice]

I'm not a big fan of fighting the legion. Not a fan of Dire Wolves either. Neither give loot worth fighting for.

[Wyrtt]

Originally posted by Slice:

I'm not a big fan of fighting the legion. Not a fan of Dire Wolves either. Neither give loot worth fighting for.

wovles are very cool enemy type. Fast. deadly and unarmored. Battles are swift and bloody.
Skeletons? the most boring enemy type/

[Horoai]

I don't particularly enjoy fighting them either. If they come with geists or priests then it's more fun. However, the generic "A plethora of Ancient Legionaires" company is just not as fun to fight.

First of all, having to change the load-out on every one of my brothers gets tiresome fast, which is why I repeatedly suggested to improve load-out management with some additional quality of life.
And yes, it's every one of them:
-Trade bows for throwing axes and quivers for more throwing axes. Or in my case, replace archers with dedicated polearm and 2h mercs entirely.
-Swap kite shield for heater shields.
-You might even consider swapping out spears because they're usually only funny for one turn.
-Bring the sergeant and his banner up just in case there are geists or priests.

It's a long check list and it gets annoying if you face them frequently but not exclusively.


Secondly, I have only found out about 2 or 3 strategies that work againt them and my party is only suited for 1 of those. So it's the exact same fight every time...

And finally they just don't tend to have any interesting loot on them. Some of those armors and weapons are worth a lot but none of it is really viable to use, except the warscythe and I still haven't seen one of these.

[addictedtotanks]

I don't but I personally find undead enemies in any game kind of dull.

I prefer fighting orcs or people or ghouls. Zombies are okay as well.

[screeg]

Fighting a rectangle of Ancient Undead is like digging a ditch: it's a lot of slow, tedious work with few surprises.

[Lord Stuffington]

I don't realy enjoy fighting ancient undead either ( also because of lack of feedback i.e. panic, blood etc.).

However, i am more annoyed by the generic camps that spawn during their invasion: The whole place is littered with crypts that give no sight on the garrison for no reason and usualy contain 25 zombies, 3 necromancer, 2 fallen heros and 10+ geists. These fights require some adaption, time and are prone to bad luck but don't yield any reward. Zombies, geist and necromancers drop nothing or basically nothing, usualy because you destroy the gear they wear, and the "treasures" are always just some gold and one of those signet rings. Lesser versions of this camp found outside the invasion would provide several golden tomes or gems...

Noble wars on the other hand are way more fun, require not so much attention and give better loot. Besides, nothing beats striking down 3 guys in one swing and watch the morale go down the toilett.

[Horoai]

^
+1

[Barahur]

Originally posted by willsama974:

Originally posted by Schopenhauer:

But do you like fighting them?
I prefere Bandit, orcs, goblins over them...

Sorry didn't get that^^ Yes i like them in a weird way, they are the ones that scare me the most along with top tier humans with top tier gear.

Undead are also scary in a way because they invalidate a decent number of perks in the talent tree. For that reason, I don't bother with Crippling Strikes, Executioner or Fearsome. Those talents rely on morale or injuries to be effective neither of which apply to the Undead.