No Reinforcment bug?

[Rogat]

So In a siege I have an army defending the city and an army next to it. The enemy has 4 armies and when it attacks for some reason the army in my city and the garrison don't feel like helping me. If it's a mechanic then it's the stupidest unfair bullcrap I've ever seen in this game.

[Dredd Penguin]

The enemy general might have the "Lightning Strike" ability which means they'll only face one of your armies.

[Rogat]

Originally posted by Dredd Penguin:

The enemy general might have the "Lightning Strike" ability which means they'll only face one of your armies.

But that applies to his forces as well, and he is reinforced by 3 armies.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

Originally posted by Dredd Penguin:

The enemy general might have the "Lightning Strike" ability which means they'll only face one of your armies.

But that applies to his forces as well, and he is reinforced by 3 armies.

I havnt seen that yet. I would suggest you post this on there official Bug Forums also. please.

good luck.

[Rogat]

Alright, thanks.

[blackhand_lost]

If the enemy has besieged your settlement, its garrison and army can not reinforce, they're blocked inside the settlement. However, if the enemy attacked the settlement instead, your 2nd army could come as reinforcement. That's how it's supposed to be working.

[Rogat]

Originally posted by blackhand_lost:

If the enemy has besieged your settlement, its garrison and army can not reinforce, they're blocked inside the settlement. However, if the enemy attacked the settlement instead, your 2nd army could come as reinforcement. That's how it's supposed to be working.

That... doesn't make any sense.

[blackhand_lost]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

That... doesn't make any sense.

I just saw you've got 400+ hours in Rome 2 and Attila, how come you haven't figured it out yet? It has always been working like this.
I never said it makes sense, especially considering that now the 2nd reinforcing army from outside the city appears inside the walls when you play the defensive siege battle.

[Rogat]

Originally posted by blackhand_lost:

Originally posted by Skaylor:

That... doesn't make any sense.

I just saw you've got 400+ hours in Rome 2 and Attila, how come you haven't figured it out yet? It has always been working like this.
I never said it makes sense, especially considering that now the 2nd reinforcing army from outside the city appears inside the walls when you play the defensive siege battle.

I was probably playing with a mod that changed that I guess. I just don't understand why it's a mechanic :/

[BoogieMan]

Also something to keep in mind, Beastmen have special skill ranks for Lightning Strike which lets them bring in very close reinforcements.

[GodlyNico]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

Originally posted by blackhand_lost:

If the enemy has besieged your settlement, its garrison and army can not reinforce, they're blocked inside the settlement. However, if the enemy attacked the settlement instead, your 2nd army could come as reinforcement. That's how it's supposed to be working.

That... doesn't make any sense.

He's right. If your army is already besieged by one army and you have one outside and it gets attacked by another group of armies, the armies besieged can't help defend because they are stuck inside and can not rally out to help you. It is logical and I would not call it a bug. However if you're not besieged and this happens, then I would call it so.

[Rogat]

Originally posted by GodlyNico:

Originally posted by Skaylor:

That... doesn't make any sense.

He's right. If your army is already besieged by one army and you have one outside and it gets attacked by another group of armies, the armies besieged can't help defend because they are stuck inside and can not rally out to help you. It is logical and I would not call it a bug. However if you're not besieged and this happens, then I would call it so.

What exactly keeps them there stuck? Invisible armies?

[BoogieMan]

City is under siege by four armies.

You have one army outside of the city.

One of the four armies attacks your external army.

Army inside the city cannot leave due to the siege army preventing them from leaving, and as such, leaving the city open to conquest.


If you get attacked by all four armies during the assault on the external army that's probably a game oversight, as one of them would have to stay at the gates to maintain the siege.

[Rogat]

Originally posted by BoogieMan:

City is under siege by four armies.

You have one army outside of the city.

One of the four armies attacks your external army.

Army inside the city cannot leave due to the siege army preventing them from leaving, and as such, leaving the city open to conquest.


If you get attacked by all four armies during the assault on the external army that's probably a game oversight, as one of them would have to stay at the gates to maintain the siege.

But the besieger army left, so the city is not besieged anymore

[Sludge]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

Originally posted by BoogieMan:

City is under siege by four armies.

You have one army outside of the city.

One of the four armies attacks your external army.

Army inside the city cannot leave due to the siege army preventing them from leaving, and as such, leaving the city open to conquest.


If you get attacked by all four armies during the assault on the external army that's probably a game oversight, as one of them would have to stay at the gates to maintain the siege.

But the besieger army left, so the city is not besieged anymore

If you have an army within reinforcement range of a settlement they should reinforce each other provided that the settlement is not under siege. The garrison should be used as reinforcments if the enemy attacks your army that's in range of a settlement.

The garrison should reinforce based on what you say. I've had garrisons reinforce battles with their crap units like dwarven miners and such. Are you sure your army is close enough to the settlement? If not, then that is the problem.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

What about this isn't making sense to you? Seems to be pretty clear for me.