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Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:17pm
Beastmen: Chaos Corruption doesn't make sense
I get that Beastmen are creatures of Chaos, and yes, Chaos corruption WOULD spread... But not this type of Chaos corruption. Beastmen are primal beasts that come from deep woods full of mystery, and when you spread Chaos corruption, this happens: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/491275097973849477/0F0D2A1EB5AE01125D20DFED80E6E3190DE6EB55/

Trees wither and die/get burnt. I get that it's difficult to redraw these assets a forth time (once for normal, once for Vampires, once for Chaos), but this feels very, very wrong to me.
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CaptainMerkin Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:35pm 
so are you saying that creatures of chaos should not spread chaos?
Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Slaine:
so are you saying that creatures of chaos should not spread chaos?

I am saying creatures of Chaos should spread the correct form of Chaos. Chaos doesn't mean making everything look like Mordor. Chaos can also be thick forests and jungles full of beasts and poisonous plants. It can be a flooded plain full of horrors. Yes, the Everchosen should spread the Chaos Wastes with him, but Beastmen would first and foremost restore THEIR natural habitat, which is a land covered in thick forests full of death and chaos.
jords321 Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Slaine:
so are you saying that creatures of chaos should not spread chaos?
No he's saying that it should be a different visual effect, why would the beastman 'chaos' destroy trees
Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by jords321:
Originally posted by Slaine:
so are you saying that creatures of chaos should not spread chaos?
No he's saying that it should be a different visual effect, why would the beastman 'chaos' destroy trees

Yes, that. It may be mildly nitpicky, but it makes it feel less like I'm playing a unique race and more a very solid reskin.
p30pl3h4t3m3 Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:49pm 
do you think, the universe care if earth is a living planet or just another dead stone ?

you don't understand the nature of chaos ... chaos don't care about trees or which gods and creatures serve it...

chaos is self destruction...
Last edited by p30pl3h4t3m3; Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:51pm
jords321 Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by p30pl3h4t3m3:
do you think, the universe care if earth is a living planet or just another dead stone ?

you don't understand the nature of chaos ... chaos don't care about trees or which gods and creatures serve it...

chaos is self destruction...
But why would the beastmen spread it if it destroys there homes (forests)?
The Fixer Jul 28, 2016 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by jords321:
Originally posted by p30pl3h4t3m3:
do you think, the universe care if earth is a living planet or just another dead stone ?

you don't understand the nature of chaos ... chaos don't care about trees or which gods and creatures serve it...

chaos is self destruction...
But why would the beastmen spread it if it destroys there homes (forests)?

Because you assume logical behaviour. Chaos have it in it's name :steammocking: That said, I would love to see different chaos effect too!
Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by p30pl3h4t3m3:
do you think, the universe care if earth is a living planet or just another dead stone ?

you don't understand the nature of chaos ... chaos don't care about trees or which gods and creatures serve it...

chaos is self destruction...

No but I also don't think Chaos corruption spreads without a willingness of those spreading it. Again, Chaos corruption is not a single thing. Hell, it varies between which individual God is worshipped in much of the lore. There's plenty of things about the 'ground turning black beneath his feet' in regards to the Everchosen and his armies, but nothing about the Beastmen doing the same despite being Chaos worshippers. As such, I assume it has more to do with a willingness of the Everchosen to spread his corruption in the way he does, ie, spreading the Chaos Wastes.

Don't see any reason at all that the Beastmen would do the same.
Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by (TWD) Nikola Tesla:
Originally posted by jords321:
But why would the beastmen spread it if it destroys there homes (forests)?

Because you assume logical behaviour. Chaos have it in it's name :steammocking: That said, I would love to see different chaos effect too!

Big difference here being: Beastmen are not Chaos, they are followers of Chaos.
Songbird Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:12pm 
Stop spreading this nonsense right now please, someone might believe that beastmen have a different corruption which is flat out not true.

Please read up on End Times and what happens in Athel Loren and in the Drakenwald.

Hint: The trees are reduced to rotten stumps, beastmen light up forrests to signal other herds, The Tree of Life is reduced to a shallow husk full of maggots.

Originally posted by Ludovin:
Originally posted by (TWD) Nikola Tesla:

Because you assume logical behaviour. Chaos have it in it's name :steammocking: That said, I would love to see different chaos effect too!

Big difference here being: Beastmen are not Chaos, they are followers of Chaos.

They are the manifestation of Chaos. One of the beastmen causes things around him to turn into Chaos Spawns.

Chaos Warriors worship Chaos, beastmen are the children of Chaos. They even speak the dark tongue - not even Chaos Warriors do that. (save for certain champions)
Last edited by Songbird; Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:16pm
the velvet hammer Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by jords321:
Originally posted by Slaine:
so are you saying that creatures of chaos should not spread chaos?
No he's saying that it should be a different visual effect, why would the beastman 'chaos' destroy trees

Yeah I dig this. A differnt form of chaos corruption would be sweet.
Songbird Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by the velvet hammer:
Originally posted by jords321:
No he's saying that it should be a different visual effect, why would the beastman 'chaos' destroy trees

Yeah I dig this. A differnt form of chaos corruption would be sweet.

But that wouldn't make sense lore wise and CA wants to stay true to the lore.
Nippur Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:22pm 
Did you see the Chaos Wastes, all should look like that.
Tenshin51 Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:25pm 
Maybe they look like wilderbeest and they act as horde. They are not nature loving hippie faction.

Like a horde like the huns and mongols they herd a lot of pasture animals and those animal eat a lot. In case w/ beastman they are herd themselves.
Ludovin Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by Songbird:
Stop spreading this nonsense right now please, someone might believe that beastmen have a different corruption which is flat out not true.

Please read up on End Times and what happens in Athel Loren and in the Drakenwald.

Hint: The trees are reduced to rotten stumps, beastmen light up forrests to signal other herds, The Tree of Life is reduced to a shallow husk full of maggots.

Originally posted by Ludovin:

Big difference here being: Beastmen are not Chaos, they are followers of Chaos.

They are the manifestation of Chaos. One of the beastmen causes things around him to turn into Chaos Spawns.

Chaos Warriors worship Chaos, beastmen are the children of Chaos. They even speak the dark tongue - not even Chaos Warriors do that. (save for certain champions)

Does that sound like lava boiling up from the ground and a desert forming? No, it sounds like a peat swamp, as I was saying: A dark, dank, wetland/forest/jungle of disgusting creatures. Your sources say nothing about the entire land being scorched to cinders and resembling the Chaos Wastes. As for Beastmen and their origins: Come on, man. You know as well as I that Beastmen have multiple origin myths, all of which are alluded to as what they THINK happened, never as what DID happen. There is no definitive proof that they are Chaos spawn, just as there is no definitive proof that they are simply beasts that migrated south. Just what one herd thought or what some Imperial theorized.
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