So Whats The General Strategy For 300 - 1,000+?

[The Shadow Rose]

I know you just go with the flow till frostleaf level 50 and 100 hs with 5 in murder,wrath and momentum ancients (at least i did) then you alternate upgrades between treebeast,ivan,brittany and the samuri which i rode till level 290 where i got the dread knight and then things melted till 310 where i then lost a 50k click streak combo i was working on for half a day when i accidentally clicked the game off when a relitive called my name but what after that?.

I ascended and upped my hs to 202 and spent the rest on upping the ancients to 10 each but do i do the same as before or is there a specific strategy for 300+?

Ive looked and i cant find anything besides the 4 you alternate but then again maybe i just have no clue where to look.

Btw is there a way to get relics that isnt limited to 1 when you restart and the extremly rare chance you get one from merc?

Well besides buying since its basically gueranteed you wont get a decent relic there.

[pedro.moratori]

Put all your gilds on atlas, one in dread knight. Put you souls on Argaiv, Baal, Frag and Juggernaut, and the square of their level on morgulis. Don't forget Mamon and Minzee in about 80% of the Argaiv level. Do that in til Baal and Frag lvl 2000, then keep upgrading the others and consider change to idle build. The lvl of Solomon is very aguably, my is lvl 2700, and Argaiv is 7000.

[JustSamForNow]

good idea

[IT Dog]

The relic chance found from Merc is actually pretty decent, like 25% for 4 hours and 44% for 8 hours..
And I think Idle dps is far more suit this game (if you want to play an active game 24/7 why pick this game -.-?)
For me I use DK / Atlas and Treebeast to transfer to 1000+ with focusing on level up Siyalatas and Argaiv

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by Raiden:

The relic chance found from Merc is actually pretty decent, like 25% for 4 hours and 44% for 8 hours..
And I think Idle dps is far more suit this game (if you want to play an active game 24/7 why pick this game -.-?)
For me I use DK / Atlas and Treebeast to transfer to 1000+ with focusing on level up Siyalatas and Argaiv

Because i have found that the damage of clicking is 10x faster.

With just a lvl 5 wrath murder and momentum clicking carried me to 310 from 140 yesterday and when i ascended one more time and reguilded my heros and then upped them each to lvl 10 i hit 510 this morning.

It would have taken weeks to do that with idle >.> the crits themselves basically half or quarter all enemies hp to the point where everything melts.

That combined with the combo click damage increases your damage thousands of times over plus if you get it up high like 50k+ it adds up to something like a 20,000% damage modifier to dps, clicks and crit damage.

No amount of idle ancients can rise you even close to that much.

Also i happen to like the simpleness compared to my normal strategy games :D

And im not nearly patient enough for waiting weeks to go up a few hundred levels ^.^

[FergieJ]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Originally posted by Raiden:

The relic chance found from Merc is actually pretty decent, like 25% for 4 hours and 44% for 8 hours..
And I think Idle dps is far more suit this game (if you want to play an active game 24/7 why pick this game -.-?)
For me I use DK / Atlas and Treebeast to transfer to 1000+ with focusing on level up Siyalatas and Argaiv

Because i have found that the damage of clicking is 10x faster.

With just a lvl 5 wrath murder and momentum clicking carried me to 310 from 140 yesterday and when i ascended one more time and reguilded my heros and then upped them each to lvl 10 i hit 510 this morning.

It would have taken weeks to do that with idle >.> the crits themselves basically half or quarter all enemies hp to the point where everything melts.

That combined with the combo click damage increases your damage thousands of times over plus if you get it up high like 50k+ it adds up to something like a 20,000% damage modifier to dps, clicks and crit damage.

No amount of idle ancients can rise you even close to that much.

Also i happen to like the simpleness compared to my normal strategy games :D

And im not nearly patient enough for waiting weeks to go up a few hundred levels ^.^

If you are just getting to DK, do NOT put all your gilds on Atlas yet lol... move all your gilds to the Masked Samuari,

In the mean time, I think you are waiting to long between restarts, at your level of HS, gaining a quick 100 is a big boost over waiting a full day to get 200, you could do 3 restarts for 100 in the same time....

and each time, you get that much more powerful, meaning you earn the next 100 HS restart 5-15mins faster than the one before....



after 3 or 4 of them, you can then start resetting at 150 or so in the same time you would have been resetting at 100

you will start to see a lot of speed building and after awhile you will have Frost Leaf maxed out in 5mins



Also like stated above, get Solomon, he is a huge boost in the long run.... I have him sitting at around lvl 150 for along while and was told he was still very underleveled.... now I boosted him up to over 400 and now every time i restart i put at least 10 more into him, he is a beast!

goodluck!

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by fergiej666:

If you are just getting to DK, do NOT put all your gilds on Atlas yet lol... move all your gilds to the Masked Samuari,

In the mean time, I think you are waiting to long between restarts, at your level of HS, gaining a quick 100 is a big boost over waiting a full day to get 200, you could do 3 restarts for 100 in the same time....

and each time, you get that much more powerful, meaning you earn the next 100 HS restart 5-15mins faster than the one before....



after 3 or 4 of them, you can then start resetting at 150 or so in the same time you would have been resetting at 100

you will start to see a lot of speed building and after awhile you will have Frost Leaf maxed out in 5mins



Also like stated above, get Solomon, he is a huge boost in the long run.... I have him sitting at around lvl 150 for along while and was told he was still very underleveled.... now I boosted him up to over 400 and now every time i restart i put at least 10 more into him, he is a beast!

goodluck!

I got to dk yesterday and i did divide them up between samuri dk and atlas with randoms since i only had 500hs free from that run.

As for to long it only takes me about 2 or so hours to hit like 480ish where it starts slowing down for me if i click nonstop and yesterday i restarted like 5 times which was one every hour or 2 for 300ish each >.> needed to for guilding and the ancients so i dont need to reset for 100 when i can hit 300 in a short time ^.^

As for speed it only takes me like 20 mins to max him now :D

And thanks for the help ^.^

Ill probably just speed farm 300+ hs till i can double my 3 ancients to 20 each and redo all my guildeds to masked >.> from my esitimate it should take around 50 for it to hit atlas without the ds :D

Also thanks for the help >.> i only bothered with the clicking ancients and the 2 that increase the primal souls and chance of them and morgulis so i didnt click something and lose most of my hs by accident x.x

Its a simple but enjoyable game >.> even made my own clan with the free rubies just to see what the raid thing was like.

[FergieJ]

Ok you are a tad bit farther than I thought you were at from reading your first post.

Spliting your gilds 3 ways is not the effective way to do it, once you start leving up Atlas, quickly MS and DK will become useless.... but that is if you can get MS to lvl 2500+ with ease....

Atlas at 800 is equal to MS at 2500

So you will should either place all your gilds on MS, or all on Atlas and just leave 1 Gild on MS (to help you get to Atlas)

The rule of thumb is, if you can get MS to about lvl 2500 without really needing to use any skills, just buying levels and watching evertyhing instant die (cant even click even if trying) then you put all your gilds on Atlas.

Otherwise, keep them all on MS and just level him up

[FergieJ]

I am also an Active Build, so once it starts to slow down, I use some skill combos to push a bit deeper, often doing 1-4 at once, then 8/9 combo to reset 3 and 4....

and once 1 and 2 reset on timers I do 1-4 again....


You can bridge with a 1-2 to get back to the combo again, but after awhile it is just more useful to reset, spend your HS and go at it again.... deepending on how im feeling or if im just trying to see how deep i can do that time around, i will do my combo 3-5 times (6 or 7 if i want to try and go really deep on that run)

My max run is 1859, but I normally will stop at around 1750 and cash out

[davidb11]

My idle build currently goes from a new ascension to level 500 in less than 1 hour. Idle builds aren't that bad, except at the beginning when you're working on them, and that takes the longest.
The merc system has helped me so much, I've gotten Phthalo unlocked in less time than it took me to get to Dread Knight.

Relics make a big difference as well, earlier on.

I can't stand clicking my mouse to the point where Jugg, or anything else will help me.
I really don't want to sue you for catastrophic nerve damage in my finger you know. :)

That's a bad joke I know.

But my point is, an idle build and me work better than any clicking build.
I could ascend right now, and move more gilds to Masked Samaurai and Atlas.
I've gotten 60 gilds right now on Masked Samurai.
The time you move to Atlas for idle builds is when you can instant kill up to Sam level 2500. :)
And certain skills are higher.

Moving too many hero souls into solomon at the moment isn't the best idea for me, because I'd rather work on everything else before I start trying to get 50 million souls from level 100 to level 500. :)

Which seems like what 2000 points in Solomon would do.

I love how there's no wrong way to play this game, even if Idle builds don't do 40 octillion times more damage than Clicking.

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by fergiej666:

I am also an Active Build, so once it starts to slow down, I use some skill combos to push a bit deeper, often doing 1-4 at once, then 8/9 combo to reset 3 and 4....

and once 1 and 2 reset on timers I do 1-4 again....


You can bridge with a 1-2 to get back to the combo again, but after awhile it is just more useful to reset, spend your HS and go at it again.... deepending on how im feeling or if im just trying to see how deep i can do that time around, i will do my combo 3-5 times (6 or 7 if i want to try and go really deep on that run)

My max run is 1859, but I normally will stop at around 1750 and cash out

I do 1 and 2 and the 2 golds then to push farther i use the crit one and reload on the next boss then double one and crits >.> that usually pushing it so far that even my crits and maximum possible upgrades dont even dodamage anymore lol

But normally i just go till things feel like they slow down with is 300 - 500 hs and reset for another 500kish hs in 1 - 2ish hrs :D

Although i can see why idle is useful later on but i doubt clicking is that bad even at a level as high as yours if you manage to do a 500 - 100k click combo with good wrath/murder/momentum upgrades.

Ive only found the combo and crit damage to be the sole reason im advancing even remotly this fast.

Also your really far in o.O

Im just a newbie who likes clicking instead of something like europa universalis 4 or civ 5 once in awhile :D

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by davidb11:

My idle build currently goes from a new ascension to level 500 in less than 1 hour. Idle builds aren't that bad, except at the beginning when you're working on them, and that takes the longest.
The merc system has helped me so much, I've gotten Phthalo unlocked in less time than it took me to get to Dread Knight.

Relics make a big difference as well, earlier on.

I can't stand clicking my mouse to the point where Jugg, or anything else will help me.
I really don't want to sue you for catastrophic nerve damage in my finger you know. :)

That's a bad joke I know.

But my point is, an idle build and me work better than any clicking build.
I could ascend right now, and move more gilds to Masked Samaurai and Atlas.
I've gotten 60 gilds right now on Masked Samurai.
The time you move to Atlas for idle builds is when you can instant kill up to Sam level 2500. :)
And certain skills are higher.

Moving too many hero souls into solomon at the moment isn't the best idea for me, because I'd rather work on everything else before I start trying to get 50 million souls from level 100 to level 500. :)

Which seems like what 2000 points in Solomon would do.

I love how there's no wrong way to play this game, even if Idle builds don't do 40 octillion times more damage than Clicking.

I can see that >.> idle would be useful for advancing the lower levels quickly >.> that never occured to me somehow lol

Also the thought of 50 million souls compared to my 500ish makes me cry a little >.<

[davidb11]

Well, I currently am running with 19,000. :)
Don't worry about the souls, if you keep putting points into Solomon, you'll start seeing silly amounts too.

I was exaggerating though, when I said you'd get 50 million from just 2000 points in Solomon. :)

[FergieJ]

Yeah I really should pick up some of the idle ones, just to help me push at the start, right now I dont have to use a single click or skill till around zone 1050, but I toss in some Metal Dectors here and there, but honestly, just sitting idle for that first 20mins leveling up and having the DPS and Gold idle boosters would be much more powerful....

[The Shadow Rose]

Originally posted by Froggy Fraggelnos:

As David already mentioned, there is no "wrong" way to play the game, but there is an optimal and an unoptimal one. And it seems it is leaning far towards the latter in this thread.
If you'd like to optimize your runs I suggest you guys read the pinned threads thouroughly.

True but following an exact guide of the best way feels boring for me.

I dont mind some advice to get the general feel of things and so on but following an optimized run sticking to a guide doesnt feel fun at all to me D:

But i just like playing games not following what others played and copying it exactly :D

Thanks for the help though >.> ill probably look at it just to get the general idea of how things work ^.^

[FergieJ]

Originally posted by The Shadow Rose:

Originally posted by Froggy Fraggelnos:

As David already mentioned, there is no "wrong" way to play the game, but there is an optimal and an unoptimal one. And it seems it is leaning far towards the latter in this thread.
If you'd like to optimize your runs I suggest you guys read the pinned threads thouroughly.

True but following an exact guide of the best way feels boring for me.

I dont mind some advice to get the general feel of things and so on but following an optimized run sticking to a guide doesnt feel fun at all to me D:

But i just like playing games not following what others played and copying it exactly :D

Thanks for the help though >.> ill probably look at it just to get the general idea of how things work ^.^

Yeah I feel the same way, I browsed after a long while just going at it.... but mostly just looking up how some things worked, rather than exactly how to tie them all together.

as an idle game it already can be borning at times, dont need directions and a walk thru with it as well lol