Most effective game progress after zone 1 million

[t_bone94]

Good day
I have finally reached Zone 1 Million and now I don't know exactly how to proceed. Since the quick ascents no longer bring any hero souls, I would always have to start over to get new souls. I find this takes a very long time in Zone 1 Million.

Is there a better solution to progress faster? In the Reddit forum it was described that the time lapse would replace the quick ascents. However, these bring only gold and no hero souls. Do I understand this correctly?

Or do I really have to start every ascent at 0 to unlock all heroes?

Thanks for your help!

[Dutchie]

I'm afraid so once you hit zone 1m+ the next step is to transcend and restart the same grind
but this time to zone ~2m.
once you reach zone 1m for the 2nd time you'll have to use regular ascensions to gain and spend the hero souls you've earned. Then use timelapses to make your way back to your hze as fast as possible to continue the grind.

[t_bone94]

Thanks for the answer!

But does time-lapse generate hero souls at all? The explanation only says that I would get gold....

[Dutchie]

Basically timelapses allow you to cut out time you would have to spend going back up from zone 0 after an ascension.
I'm at zone 1.77m right now and if I ascend and go back to zone 0 i'd have to spend days just oneshotting waves to get back up to where I can push my highest zone further.
Instead I use timelapses to get back up to around zone 1.6m and then grind the rest.
Timelapses aren't meant for getting gold or hero souls, they're meant to save time getting back to where you can grind again.

[t_bone94]

Ah ok that is understandable! But for that I have to bring all inactive bonuses to the same level as the click damage to achieve something with time lapse, correct?

And should I rather use time lapse or quick ascents on the 2nd run to 1 million?

[Dutchie]

Yes for timelapses you'd want a hybrid build to take advantage of the idle bonuses.
To get back to 1m use the cheaper quick ascends since that costs only 50 rubies.
Once your HZE is past 1m again use normal ascends and the timelapses.

[t_bone94]

But I don't understand exactly how the time lapse works....when I trigger it.... does it automatically jump to the maximum zone which I would reach after the time of the time lapse ? Because if I use it now with hybrid at zone 200k nothing happens except that the quests are updated....So I really need days to get back to my old maximum zone as you said yourself....where is my thinking error?

[t_bone94]

can someone Help me?

Should I first use the Active Build up to zone 1 million and then switch to Hybrid from zone 1 million or should I use the Hybrid Build from the beginning?

[Dutchie]

Ok I'll give you a step by step what I do once I have to ascend at the end of my grind.
1: I click ascend and gain hero souls dropping me back to zone 1.
2: I spend the hero souls using a calc for a hybrid build.
3: I level my heroes as far as they can go and guild my highest. ( the maw for me)
4: I use a timelapse calc to see what timelapses I have to do and follow that order.
5: After every timelapse I use I spend the gold to raise heroes and guild the highest one I unlock. (after 1 timelapse I unlock and guild Yachiyl, after the 2nd I unlock and guild ace scout sophia etc etc.)
6: After the timelapses are no longer effective I switch to active build (I assign my autoclickers leaving one on my Guilded hero and the rest on the monsters)
7: I push to my new HZE and do it all over again.

[t_bone94]

Thanks for your help :) Which Timelaps calc do you use?

I will try it!

[Dutchie]

https://driej.github.io/Clicker-Heroes-Timelapses/

That's the one I use.

[t_bone94]

thanks again for your time :)

I noticed that my problem could still be that I have the hero for inactive bonuses (Xyliqil) still too low....can this become a problem with your way ? Will promote him with the next crossing with Ancient Souls.

[Dutchie]

No he's at level 0 for me so no impact.
I only have levels in 4 ancients: Borb, Ponyboy, Phandoryss and Chor'gorloth.

[t_bone94]

When you switch to Active Mode after the Timelapses do you switch to the active playmode with calc or only set the AC?

[t_bone94]

According to the time-lapse calculator, I get to zone 276500 with the hero Xavira at level 361k. But now I'm just at 252k/310k and time-lapse have no more level jump...is that normal? I now use the autoclicker I make Insta kills.... does that go on until zone 276500? Or am I doing something wrong?

[Dutchie]

By switching to active I mean activating all my skills (clickstorm,powersurge etc etc) aswell as start autoclicking the monsters

Once you use your final timelapse you will have to grind for a while to reach your new highest zone. For me i'll ascend at 1.8m but my timelapses will only get me back up to 1.6m.
I'd have to grind the final 200k+ zones with active click damage to reach my new highest zone.

If your new highest zone will be 276500 that means you should still be using the quick ascends instead of timelapses. Only use timelapses if your highest zone is over 1m in your current transcension.