Transcending with Time (Ancient Souls vs HS Sacrificed)

[Nanifa]

I understand that 8-10 AS is the way to go, but does that take into account the time we spend?

As our AS reaches 3 digits, each AS requires an increasingly exorbitant amount of Hero Souls AS WELL AS time.

The time taken to reach our Transcendent Primal Reward(TPR) cap becomes even longer in each Ascension since we no longer have Iris, and Kumawakamaru isn't as easy to get to 5 Monsters anymore.

With that in mind, instead of spending some AS in Borb we can Transcend earlier to increase that cap instead anyways.

EG: (Outsiders 6/10/3/0/30)
Current AS: 52
Current HS Sacrificed: 40B
Current TPR cap: 2B
Approx Level to Reach Current TPR cap: 3200
AS Gained after Transcendence: 6
HS Sacrificed after Transcendence: 590B
New TPR cap: 29.5B

In ANY case, assuming I stick to my current build, I might just invest all my newly gained AS into Ponyboy, since I "hate" Borb.
That's with 30 in Ponyboy right now:
Personally 6 AS or ~20% increase in Solomon. (See example)
OR
Conventionally 10AS or ~32% increase in Solomon. (10AS Transcend)

But with this, instead of spending time gathering that 4 more AS, my new TPR cap is ~1500% more albeit my HS gained is 32%-20% = 12% less. (I don't mind spending that 50gems for the first ascension to get a boost to the slow start at each Transcendence).

Thoughts? I'm more interested in the time spent versus the AS we gain.

[Hayama Akito]

Well, I think the point of 8-10 is not necessarily the gain in AS, but the gain in TPR cap as well. Once you hit 6 AS you should be easily hitting your cap level and your ascensions get better and better. Going from 6 to 8 doesn't take that many ascensions and will multiply your TPR cap by 2-3, so the time might be worth it.

It does also depend on your personal life and if you will have time to spend after transcending to jumpstart yourself since beginning of transcending requires more attention.

[Smile ( - : ]<it helps>[ ; - )]

Hey Nanifa

As when to transcend, i have to agree with Jake2099, do it when it fits your schedule, most efficient will be to look at AS/hour.
My last transcend i could transcend in 48 hours with +13 AS = 0.270AS/hour, using 1 QA 3 timelaps, that did not fit my schedule, so i transcended after 57 hours with +14 AS = 0.245AS/hour, using 1 QA 2 timelaps.
My build at that time 3/10/12/31/20.

All hail Borb.

[Nanifa]

Interesting, thanks for the input guys.

[Hayama Akito]

Originally posted by Nanifa:

Interesting, thanks for the input guys.

No problem. It's really just personal preference, it's a game so it's completely up to you. I transcend when I have 7-8 AS usually, though this next one will be at least 9. I'm low on rubies or I would have transcended tonight. Transcensions get longer and longer, mostly because each time your individual ascensions will be longer. For this reason I like the idea of getting more bang for my buck, so to speak.

[Nanifa]

Hmm, but most high level (above 50) Transcendences are more for increasing TPR cap right? Getting 10AS when you only have 10AS currently versus getting 10AS when you have like 100AS.

[Hayama Akito]

Originally posted by Nanifa:

Hmm, but most high level (above 50) Transcendences are more for increasing TPR cap right? Getting 10AS when you only have 10AS currently versus getting 10AS when you have like 100AS.

Yes, that is what I was saying. Each extra AS you're gaining multiplies your new TPR cap by 1.6. So +6 AS versus +8 AS equates to roughly 2.5 multiplier, for example. Going from 6 to 8 shouldn't take more than a day or two at most, so unless your transcensions are very fast I think it would pay off in the long run.