Turn-based combat!

[Jesse Dylan]

I love the turn-based combat they've added to Pillars of Eternity 2. I wish they'd add it to Tyranny as well. (and PoE 1)

[L1qu1dator]

Turn based combat sucks. And Tyranny sort of has it, just camouflaged - that stupid delay between actions.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

Turn based combat sucks. And Tyranny sort of has it, just camouflaged - that stupid delay between actions.

Real-time combat sucks. Whomever thought that was a good way to translate tabletop combat to single-player computer games was innovative but misguided.

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

Turn based combat sucks. And Tyranny sort of has it, just camouflaged - that stupid delay between actions.

Real-time combat sucks. Whomever thought that was a good way to translate tabletop combat to single-player computer games was innovative but misguided.

I liked the real time combat well enough in BG/IWD/P:T/NWN/etc., although it does feel a bit more awkward here. But it still effectively is turn-based combat, with a LOT of options you don't usually see in real time combat.

[SmashingSnow]

Originally posted by LHGreen:

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

Real-time combat sucks. Whomever thought that was a good way to translate tabletop combat to single-player computer games was innovative but misguided.

I liked the real time combat well enough in BG/IWD/P:T/NWN/etc., although it does feel a bit more awkward here. But it still effectively is turn-based combat, with a LOT of options you don't usually see in real time combat.

What is NWN?

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by SmashingSnow:

What is NWN?

Neverwinter Nights

[SmashingSnow]

Originally posted by LHGreen:

Originally posted by SmashingSnow:

What is NWN?

Neverwinter Nights

thanks

[Pie Lord]

I'd just like to toss in I don't really play many turn based games because I don't really like the style, I doubt I'd love Tyranny as much as I do if it was completely turn based. I put a lot of points into shortening my wait time so I could get multiple hits between an enemies single strike and the slow progression of watching myself get faster was delightful.

[Jesse Dylan]

Well, you could end up with more hits per turn, or your turns might come faster. I think it's fine to have an option, as they do in PoE 2 now. The argument will last forever. I will always think real-time is trash. ;) If I wanted to play Warcraft 2, I'd play Warcraft 2. And it is no more turn-based than Warcraft 2, either.

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

The argument will last forever. I will always think real-time is trash. ;)

Well, that's not really an argument, that's just a matter of preference.

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

If I wanted to play Warcraft 2, I'd play Warcraft 2. And it is no more turn-based than Warcraft 2, either.

First, don't play Warcraft 2, play Warcraft 3. Or Starcraft 1. Less monotonous, with factions that are actually different. But also, it kinda is more turn-based than those, because you can't issue commands while paused in those games. You CAN slow the action down to a crawl, though, which THIS game could use, but it only helps so much.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by LHGreen:

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

The argument will last forever. I will always think real-time is trash. ;)

Well, that's not really an argument, that's just a matter of preference.

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

If I wanted to play Warcraft 2, I'd play Warcraft 2. And it is no more turn-based than Warcraft 2, either.

First, don't play Warcraft 2, play Warcraft 3. Or Starcraft 1. Less monotonous, with factions that are actually different. But also, it kinda is more turn-based than those, because you can't issue commands while paused in those games. You CAN slow the action down to a crawl, though, which THIS game could use, but it only helps so much.

I wasn't attempting to argue, more just declare that the argument is pointless. I just remember when Baldur's Gate came out, a lot of us (after driving in a snow storm and skidding on ice to get it, in my case--although I wasn't the one driving! thanks, Mom!) were super disappointed by the combat. And then we got to hear the "it is turn-based, just real-time turn-based" argument over and over, which has never made any sense to me.

That was my argument back then, that it felt more like Warcraft 2 than D&D. I remember actually liking RTS until I realized I was horrible at it!

[Lightning]

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

Turn based combat sucks. And Tyranny sort of has it, just camouflaged - that stupid delay between actions.

For some reason Divinity has like the best turn based system in any rpg game i've seen so far

[SmashingSnow]

Originally posted by Lightning:

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

Turn based combat sucks. And Tyranny sort of has it, just camouflaged - that stupid delay between actions.

For some reason Divinity has like the best turn based system in any rpg game i've seen so far

It sure does

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by SmashingSnow:

Originally posted by Lightning:

For some reason Divinity has like the best turn based system in any rpg game i've seen so far

It sure does

Yeah, I keep hearing stuff like that. Which game, though? The original, or 2, or the franchise as a whole, or what?

[telamiina]

Yeah. Turn based combat would make me buy.

[SmashingSnow]

Originally posted by LHGreen:

Originally posted by SmashingSnow:

It sure does

Yeah, I keep hearing stuff like that. Which game, though? The original, or 2, or the franchise as a whole, or what?

Original Sin 1 and 2 are both turn based and great games. The enhanced edition of one is great granted I haven't played all of it.