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Weapon damages seem poorly balanced.
You know what I keep hearing every darned fight?

*Weapon useless!*

*Weapon useless!*

*Weapon as useful as plastic banana!*

You get the point. It's frustrating, espacially since I'm playing on normal. This is the sort of constant brickwalling I'd expect on Hard and above, not the second lowest difficulty.

Have I just rolled utter snake-eyes on all loot slash vendors (I've heard both are random), or am I genuinly missing something?

Currently rolling with Unarmed/Lighting on my main, Armor Dude, The Sage and The Beast-Woman. (Although I'm probebly switching her out soon due to the AI bug.)
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CHAO$$$ Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:12pm 
use heavy slow weapons

max damage > speed
^@what youre doing.. unarmed is underwhelming for that reason.. even super late in the game unarmed damage is far below what weapons do and is therefore heavily affected by armor

armor pen is the best stat on everything that is 1 handed

the frozen affliction gives pen for crushing weapons as well (and ice is incidentally the best early game damage) (unarmed does crushing damage..)
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:17pm
Lord Of Dorkness Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
use heavy slow weapons

max damage > speed

armor pen is the best stat on everything that is 1 handed

the frozen affliction gives pen for crushing weapons as well (and ice is incidentally the best early game damage)


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Well, that would have been nice knowing 12 hours ago, when I built a character all around attack speed, and lighting was presented as the most boring but damaging school of magic.
[TBU]LostInTheWired Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
use heavy slow weapons

max damage > speed
^@what youre doing.. unarmed is underwhelming for that reason.. even super late in the game unarmed damage is far below what weapons do and is therefore heavily affected by armor

armor pen is the best stat on everything that is 1 handed

the frozen affliction gives pen for crushing weapons as well (and ice is incidentally the best early game damage) (unarmed does crushing damage..)

I'm going to have to disagree with this. My first run was with an unarmed/mage character and I was by far the most damaging character on the field. I enchanted/casted a fire enchntment spell on entering combat with some good strength to it, volcanic eruption, and a killer cooldown/duration so I could keep it up indefinitely. I was cutting through enemies like they were paper. Entire groups would fall from the eruption on every hit.

Plus, all the stun you have with unarmed made some bosses a cakewalk.
CHAO$$$ Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by TBULostInTheWired:
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
use heavy slow weapons

max damage > speed
^@what youre doing.. unarmed is underwhelming for that reason.. even super late in the game unarmed damage is far below what weapons do and is therefore heavily affected by armor

armor pen is the best stat on everything that is 1 handed

the frozen affliction gives pen for crushing weapons as well (and ice is incidentally the best early game damage) (unarmed does crushing damage..)

I'm going to have to disagree with this. My first run was with an unarmed/mage character and I was by far the most damaging character on the field. I enchanted/casted a fire enchntment spell on entering combat with some good strength to it, volcanic eruption, and a killer cooldown/duration so I could keep it up indefinitely. I was cutting through enemies like they were paper. Entire groups would fall from the eruption on every hit.

Plus, all the stun you have with unarmed made some bosses a cakewalk.
whatever works for you mate

srsly though.. like.. how early can you get that stuff? some enemies on POTD have 15+ armor base against various physical types although they might still be weak against fire , didnt try it myself yet.

like.. Verse is amazing once you get like a bunch of talents and excellent weapons. But she still sucks until she gets there :/
Last edited by CHAO$$$; Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:48pm
busyman Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:45pm 
As Sirin likes to put it, "this weapon is as useless as nipples on men".
Hunterkiller725 Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:46pm 
there was NO blance put into the weapons, it seems like there was this wierd concept of focused tanks shouldnt do damage or something.
CHAO$$$ Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by hunterkiller725:
there was NO blance put into the weapons, it seems like there was this wierd concept of focused tanks shouldnt do damage or something.
you really just need to get the challenger stance on MC, get a large amount of athletics skill and youre dandy, you can now tank everything regardless of what other gear/abilities you choose to get

its really just barik that sucks :D
Lord Of Dorkness Nov 16, 2016 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by CHAO$$$:
Originally posted by hunterkiller725:
there was NO blance put into the weapons, it seems like there was this wierd concept of focused tanks shouldnt do damage or something.
you really just need to get the challenger stance on MC, get a large amount of athletics skill and youre dandy, you can now tank everything regardless of what other gear/abilities you choose to get

its really just barik that sucks :D

I'd hardly call the one dedicated tank character you can get being made from paper-mache being well balanced either.
Lord Honorius Nov 16, 2016 @ 3:02pm 
Im unarmed using heavy armor glove that make prone on crit... got weapon enchant spell earth with volcano . It give me 35% crush damage plus fire damage in a 8m line. Pretty awsome
Caelestus Nov 16, 2016 @ 3:12pm 
You are upgrading your weapons right? Later enemies have some obscene amount of health, able to take four full blasts of ice, fire and lightning to the face (Disfavored...). But, my dagger/Katar weilding Verse made short work of them all. At that point, it's about synergizing your abilities together to deal massive damage, while crowd controlling the enemy. Like Lord stated right above my comment, Volcanic weapons is incredibly good. With Lantry at 165 Lore, My Fire enchantment gave +35% fire damage, 19-27? brimstone projectiles (14 Length) PER ATTACK. So you can imagine Verse when she gets a killing spree, with those fast daggers. Each problem has its answer, and for my melee enemies, that's my Verse.

Just read the rest of your post and yeah.. unarmed... Time to enchant your fists/gloves.. haha. Upgrade your gloves for more damage!
Last edited by Caelestus; Nov 16, 2016 @ 3:14pm
GC13 Nov 16, 2016 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by busyman:
As Sirin likes to put it, "this weapon is as useless as nipples on men".
I'm pretty sure that's Eb, unless both of them say it.
KaiTenSatsuma Nov 16, 2016 @ 3:56pm 
Use your Spells, use Frost, use things that knock people down, set them on fire, use weapons with piercing, or failing that, use stances and abilities and spells that grant piercing.
billy Nov 16, 2016 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by hunterkiller725:
there was NO blance put into the weapons, it seems like there was this wierd concept of focused tanks shouldnt do damage or something.

agreed . Its ridiculous andf looks silly watching my tank fight an archer in melee , it would never end.
Barik doesn't suck, you just need to upgrade his armor when you get your forge
HugsAndSnuggles Nov 16, 2016 @ 7:37pm 
Barik doesn't suck, you just need to upgrade his armor when you get your forge
Does it keep enemies from switching to other characters?
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