Not meeting Kyros is annoying

[Maxagaze]

If Kyros is not even real or whatever, the game should clarify that at least in the end. The fact that we never get to see or know the mystery behing the Overlord Kyros is annoying.

[fauxpas]

Not really, she's better served as an distant figure, and taking away her mystique would diminish her instead of adding to her.

[Maxagaze]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Not really, she's better served as an distant figure, and taking away her mystique would diminish her instead of adding to her.

I disagree. To have a mysterious character is good. To know few about the person, is something i understand. But to fight for or against him and have never seen him till the end? To know completely nothin? Oh no no. Thats cheap scenario all over the place.

[Dragonrubi]

Thank you for the spoiler

Yay for the people that just started the game and read your header

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by dragonrubi:

Thank you for the spoiler

Yay for the people that just started the game and read your header

If you are going to complain about such a minor spoiler, then you need to stay out if the forums because WHY would you believe you'd ever meet Kyros when its explicitly stated that no one does?

[AmesNFire]

Originally posted by Maxagaze:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Not really, she's better served as an distant figure, and taking away her mystique would diminish her instead of adding to her.

I disagree. To have a mysterious character is good. To know few about the person, is something i understand. But to fight for or against him and have never seen him till the end? To know completely nothin? Oh no no. Thats cheap scenario all over the place.

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What possible reason would a god-emperor(of sorts) have to visit a backwards distant land that is already officially conquered when it's pretty clear s/he can affect said provice from a distance with relative ease?
Not to mention the near-blatant scheme to get all the troublesome Archons killed by doing nothing about a civil war with a rather unfair Edict to capture a well defended stronghold with minimal planning and no cooperation between forces.

The Fatebinder's ascension was probably unnoticed or likely dismissed as false rumors by Kyro's until you were summoned to Court by Tunon for trial.
Nobody knew what ascension meant except Kyro's and actively seeking you out would draw waaaay to much attention to what happened at the Spire, something Kyro's has sought to keep secret from everybody, which would have encouraged others to break into more Spires to try to Ascend as well.

The game has more depth because Kyro's literally can't be an all-powerful Overlord without revealing his/her greating secret and weakness. You learn plenty about him/her ingame(probably not all true) and you can reason out quite a lot with the information provided.
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The civil war, assuming the Fatebinder never ascended, would have never begun as three Archons would be dead from failing the Edict and Tunon would be in control of the Tiers.
Kyro's still has no reason to go to the Tiers personally.

[Dorok]

You can't meet Kyros yet in Tyranny 1, it's only at end of Tyranny 2 that you can discover that Kyros is yourself the fatebinder, a past future version of himself.

You will met Kyros too late so he won't be able to tell everything before to be killed by the ancients rising and send you in past to be the next Kyros attempting to stop the ancients. This detail is to preserve for players a lot of the story of Tyranny 3.

[Dorok]

Originally posted by Fireplay8:

The Fatebinder's ascension was probably unnoticed or likely dismissed as false rumors by Kyro's until you were summoned to Court by Tunon for trial.
Nobody knew what ascension meant except Kyro's and actively seeking you out would draw waaaay to much attention to what happened at the Spire, something Kyro's has sought to keep secret from everybody, which would have encouraged others to break into more Spires to try to Ascend as well.

The game has more depth because Kyro's literally can't be an all-powerful Overlord without revealing his/her greating secret and weakness. You learn plenty about him/her ingame(probably not all true) and you can reason out quite a lot with the information provided.

I agree that this explanation makes sense and is centered around the spires. But it won't explain as well than a time travel paradox many details. Like why Kyros past is kept so secret, because he is past future of fatebinder. And many more.

For Kyros ingoring Fatebinder rising, it's because it's all Kyros plan, he doesn't want kill himself, he wants manipulate himself so his next occurence grows stronger to be able to stop the ancients rising in case this occurance of Kyros fails, once more.

[fauxpas]

Umm, you have anything other than headcanon to back up this time travel theory?

Because if that really was the plot In glad we'll never see a Tyranny(2).

[Dorok]

Because it makes much more sense than "distant figure" explanation. There's one element not matching, when distant figure can't explain many things. For sure I don't have the plot and that's why knowing that Kyros is fatebinder older but from another loop time is still exciting, with what they will come is still a mystery and there's ton of possibilities.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Dorok:

Because it makes much more sense than "distant figure" explanation. There's one element not matching, when distant figure can't explain many things. For sure I don't have the plot and that's why knowing that Kyros is fatebinder older but from another loop time is still exciting, with what they will come is still a mystery and there's ton of possibilities.

You seriously think that a time loop paradox makes more sense than the historically accurate vision of an distant empress enforcing her will through her agents?

[Dorok]

Sure quote any emperor or king hiding their past and gender... LoL.

Without to mention that the masked king explain nothing on Kyros passivity, nor Kyros impulsiveness to throw armies and retreat them. It's not he Kyros personality planing everything and manipulating everybody.

The masked figure explains very few, and combined with the spires aspect, it's not explaining much more.

[fauxpas]

Kyros is always referred to as "her"; the only time I can think of that she isn't is when you try to ask Turon for details and he gives a nonsense answer that still ends with him referring to her as being the mother to the empire. So this entire "hiding her gender" bit isn't really supported.

[Dorok]

No, Kyros isn't always referenced as her, no way, or they made a big update of the text and translation.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Dorok:

No, Kyros isn't always referenced as her, no way, or they made a big update of the text and translation.

I suppose I might be misremembering, but regardless if that's the case or not, SHE's referred to as a woman; hells, unless you are going to claim that the Spire vision is someone completely unconnected, that was her before she rose to power.


Face it; Kyros is not the Fatebinder's ... fate.

[Dorok]

You don't need suppose, you clearly didn't read well. No way Kyros is ever her.