Anyone else feel Tyranny is better than PoE?

[OakenWall]

Well im kinda stoked for PoE II (Pillars of Eternity 2)and could not wait so started a bit of PoE again.
But I just feel i dont really like it as much, the story was not as cool as in this game and there are more choises to do when playing a second time.

So i started a new Tyrrany playthrough instead and bought the 2 dlc packs ..
Now im a bit worried i wont like PoE II, kinda wish it was tyranny 2 lol

[Kira]

I actually did not pick PoE, because Tyranny was way more appealing, but my understanding is that they added the missing elements in PoE2, like companion interactions and consequences, so I was going to check out poe2 next year if the reviews are favourable and once Obsidian bug fixes. You can always read the reviews and chat with the folks for a while before deciding to buy.

I totally wish that Tyranny pulled the lucky ticket, not PoE, but players like more generic games normally, so what can you do.

[kia256]

I do actually. I've played both of the games, and I like Tyranny a lot more. It's hard to pinpoint anything objective, so this is just my opinion.

In terms of the worldbuilding Tyranny seems much more alive and organic. The people felt real, they were living in a savage world and doing their best to survive and achieve their aims in situations, where there is no universal good, only different sizes of evil. All the weird magical elements only served as setting and amplified the human stories told.

POE's world on the other hand had never quite gripped me. The whole theme of souls kind've left me indifferent and the world had never stopped being a bit alien.

Maybe it's just the matter of dev's gaining experience and working on their mistakes. Let's hope the POE2 takes all previous lessons to heart and will be Obsidian's best game yet.

[Toxic Toast]

Yeah, Tyranny > POE I would state my reasons but kia256 pretty much stated them.

[Ygolnac]

I've never tryed PoE:

1) Lorewise seems the usual stuff, a quite classic setting that more or less mimics D&D and doesn't appeal to me much. On the other hand Tyranny is really a breath of fresh air: an original setting, original concept art and unique distopyan world that seemed (and is) very interesting.

2) PoE seems to require a lot of investment, with a very lenghty story that seems to drag in a generic world. Also it wants to present you and explore an entire new world, beeing very dispersive. On the other hand Tyranny is way more focused, takes place in a small region, has a smaller scope but pins it right with easier to access background. The time investment is not staggering, amd your character has very clear goal to accomplish in due timespan.

3) I've been told that PoE has a lot of filler combat just to paddle gameplay further, with generic foes brigands that randomly interrupt your experience, and few meaningfull battles. In Tyranny every fight is linked to the task ahead and it's all meaningfull, fights need to be resolved to accomplish task relevant to the main story or maybe a sidequest, not filling gaps to the next story arch.

So better lore, more focused with no filler mobs is the way I like, and also why i enjoyed a lot Age of Decadence.

Beeing focused it has a lot of replay value since your choices can alter drastically your playthrough, justifying more than one if you get into it. Again more similar to AoD.

Unfortunatly it seems that majority of people like more the other way. I just hope market will have space for this kind of game in the future, but cannot really complain if sales, and fans demand, went in another direction.

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by Byzantine Fisherman:

Yes. Tyranny is a lot more engaging.

It's not that the story and worldbuilding in POE are uninteresting, but the way it's presented to the player leaves much to be desired. The main plot drags on a long time and contains very little twists and turns. The game's length feels artificially inflated with lots of filler content.

I believe POE is a far more historic game though. The isometric CRPG genre had been on the brink of extinction for quite some time, and Obsidian breathed new life into it with Pillars.

The white march imo is better than alot of the main game in POE, its still a great game imo and I have high hopes for deadfire

[OakenWall]

I agree, thinking about it some more, Tyranny just feel more alive and the whole "animancer/soul business" was not really my thing.

[Silvaren]

I like Tyranny for characters, atmosphere, C&C and mysteries of the setting, but PoE is imho better game, much more complex, rich. It feels different probably because of pacing. I put about 250 hours in Tyranny, unlocked all achievements, played through 5 times with all factions etc. and for me Tyranny is still fantastic game to come back after a while and play again.

[OakenWall]

Originally posted by Silvaren:

I like Tyranny for characters, atmosphere, C&C and mysteries of the setting, but PoE is imho better game, much more complex, rich. It feels different probably because of pacing. I put about 250 hours in Tyranny, unlocked all achievements, played through 5 times with all factions etc. and for me Tyranny is still fantastic game to come back after a while and play again.

I actually feel the opposit is true, pretty much everything is better inTtyranny. Pillars is a fine game but its just baldurs gate III, didnt feel special but it fulfills what the backers wanted anyway, nothing wrong with that. Mayve i have just played to many Rpg titels so that most just feel the same, this was something different.

I have to admit, Durand in PoE was to me one of the greatest companion I have had the pleasure to enlist :)

Anyway I have enjoyed this more than Baldurs gate/PoE

Never felt i wanted to play other Rpg:s more than once before this game, so maybe that was my mistake, to try PoE again when I should just have played this game which is made for playing more times until they release PoE II. But I had kinda forgotten about it.

[strangecat]

Yea Tyranny was way better. Tighter story more alive world better writing with Characters.
Oh and if they do Tyranny 2 it will use Pillars of Eternity 2 Dead fires Engine.

[cyricsservant]

I'm definitely finding it more addicting, though PoE is very good too.

[suejak]

I prefer Tyranny due to the approach to choice & consequence and I love the world design. However, I like Pillars too, for different reasons. I do think Pillars has better and deeper combat/systems, although Tyranny's classless tree system is fun too -- just not as "balanced".

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by Byzantine Fisherman:

I doubt there's ever going to be a Tyranny 2

people didnt expect deadfire and thats happening sooo

[Gwumpy Fwog]

Originally posted by Byzantine Fisherman:

Obsidian doesn't own the intellectual property for Tyranny

pillars 1 and tyranny were both published by paradox.... pillars 2 isnt but if it succeeds (which it will) they might just back it up themselves again

[AmesNFire]

Originally posted by Byzantine Fisherman:

Okay, but Obsidian owns the IP for Pillars of Eternity and Paradox owns the IP for Tyranny.

The only way Tyranny 2 gets made is if Paradox Interactive approves it or sells the IP to Obsidian, but it's unlikely either is going to happen. From what I've read, Paradox was unhappy with the game's low sales and Obsidian was unhappy with their interfence in the development.

Maybe next time both games can be promoted equally instead of throwing Tyranny under the bus with advertisment. Tyranny had like a single trailer and not much else news wise while Pillars had full support the whole way if I remember right.

Can't sell something if nobody knows about it.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally posted by Fireplay8:

Originally posted by Byzantine Fisherman:

Okay, but Obsidian owns the IP for Pillars of Eternity and Paradox owns the IP for Tyranny.

The only way Tyranny 2 gets made is if Paradox Interactive approves it or sells the IP to Obsidian, but it's unlikely either is going to happen. From what I've read, Paradox was unhappy with the game's low sales and Obsidian was unhappy with their interfence in the development.

Maybe next time both games can be promoted equally instead of throwing Tyranny under the bus with advertisment. Tyranny had like a single trailer and not much else news wise while Pillars had full support the whole way if I remember right.

Can't sell something if nobody knows about it.

+1 here I didnt find out about the game until it had already released, or maybe it was a week before release, I dont remember anymore, I do remember it being quite a surprise however.