Broken savegame? Use the "map" function

[Just Chill]

If you play the beta or you got suddenly suprised by the official Definitive Edition update, you will have issues with your savegame after every update.
That was like that, when I joined the beta for Xen and it will be like that in any other update either, which contains map changes.
Simply because your savegame contains data that isn't relevant anymore and rather is outdated.
The Source engine detects that and will prompt you an error.

There is a post from 2013 about Half-Life 2 having an update, which made saves invalid:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/722

Crowbar Collective uses the Source engine too and they cannot rewrite its core.

So yeah, it's annoying but that's how Valve's engine works obviously.

If you want to continue

testing / playing the game from a specific point nearby your last savegame, you simply may use the "map" command in console, with the respective map name.

Example:

map bm_c4a4a

Which will load up the Nihilanth boss fight.

Earth-bound levels:

Originally posted by SourceRuns.org/Wiki:

Black Mesa Inbound

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Anomalous Materials

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Unforseen Consequences

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Office Complex

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We've Got Hostiles

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Blast Pit

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Power Up

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On a Rail

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Apprehension

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Residue Processing

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Questionable Ethics

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Surface Tension

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Forget About Freeman

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Lambda Core

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Borderworld levels, collected by myself:

Lambda Core - Teleporter

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Xen

Arrival:
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Grotto before laboratory:
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Laboratory before explosive plant section:
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Shortly before the big tree area, where 3 rooms have to be solved to open up the path:
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Open alley before jumping down a big hole and encountering ground barnacles for the first time:
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The houndeye bridge:
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Gonarch

Arrival:
bm_c4a2a

Area after following Gonarch and jumping down (area where you need to blow the wall with a detonator):
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Area where Gonarch destroys a wall with her green goo attack (I got stuck there once in beta ^^):
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Interloper

Arrival:
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After first controller fight, in the canyon:
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When encountering the grates that need to get molten by green acid:
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Another cave with green acid riddles:
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Shortly before arriving at the factory entrance, where the first jumping Alien Grunts spawn:
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Before starting the assembly line riddle:
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Assembly line riddle, before controller ambush:
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Assembly line riddle, before going up the flesh trampolines:
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Second waste disposal area, shortly before starting the elevator section:
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At the end of the elevator sequence shortly before teleporter to Nihilanth:
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Nihilanth

Arrival:
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End Game

Kaboooooooooooooooooooooooom:
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Credits

credits

In addition:

Oh, thanks for pinning. :)

In addition to the "map"-command, there are either some things that might be worth mentioning, about having a "naked" Gordon, after using the map command to load a specific map:

Originally posted by Just Chill:

Ah, I feared that this might happen.
You need to get the HEV suit and probably even the longjump module + weapons.

To do so, you have to type these things after you loaded the map:

sv_cheats 1

give item_suit

give item_longjump

(use longjump cheat only for Lambda Core - Teleporter and Xen)

impulse 101

give item_suitcharger

Just to be sure: If you play earthbound before the Xen teleporter, do NOT use the longjump cheat. As you are not supposed to have that module before you enter the Lambda Core teleporter room.

You surely can use it in earthbound levels too, but be sure that any issue you'll encounter by using the longjump module in such a level is redundant.
As you are naturally not able to use that module in that level. ;)

If you want go further, you can also spawn the unique items for the achievements again:

Originally posted by BMS DIGITAL SPORTS:

You can use a console command to spawn the hat. Start Surface Tension from the "New Game" setting, and then type the following into the console:

prop_physics_create props_junk/tomabasarab_quaff.mdl

This will spawn the hat in front of you. Then, aim your crosshair at the hat, open the console, and type the following:

ent_setname quaff

This will make the hat be treated as THE ONE TRUE GOD the purple hat. You can now continue on your merry way. Sorry for the inconvenience.

For the Pizza:

prop_physics_create props_canteen\pizza_box.mdl

Aim on the spawned pizza and then use

ent_setname drhornspizza

For the gas cannister:

Originally posted by mp_Shell:

Originally posted by mp_Shell:

А для газового баллона подобные команды есть? …

Looks like I've found the answer:

prop_physics_create props_questionableethics\qe_gas_cylinder.mdl

ent_setname gas

https://steamcommunity.com/app/362890/discussions/0/2577697550649066266/#c2577697550649844298

Not sure if it works though, that needs to be checked.

Originally posted by mp_Shell:

Checked that and can confirm that it works. However teleport will not recognize the item if you spawn it directly on the teleport. Spawn the item aside with that commands, then grab and drop on the teleport, and it will be accepted. Now you can proceed to the secret tunnel.

[KerberosDC]

"Outdated save incompatible with version of game"

I just was playing 3 days ago and today when I loaded it up I couldn't load any of my save games because of this message! I never asked it to update, which I guess it does automatically. Is there any way I can load my saves??

[thray]

No, even if there was you would probably have all sorts of errors and glitches.
You can go to the New Game menu and choose an unlocked chapter, you will be equipped with all previous weapons.

[ThisIsMyToon]

Yeah luckily it's not too big of a deal, but I was suprised too since the changelog was added a day late.

[DIGITAL SPORTS]

Unfortunately there's no way around this. We're forced to do this as broken saves have been causing us too many unavoidable issues with every update. Sorry, the only option is to start the chapter you were on again from the "new game" menu. Apologies.

We know it's inconvenient and annoying, but such is the nature of early access - we have to update the game and Source just doesn't handle saves very well. Once the game is finished and out of early access this will stop occuring.

[VicF1]

[BMS] Chicken Chonnage
Load Error - Outdated save is incompatible with version of the game...
-> This line do not translated to any language (game_ui)

[a bad guy]

I can not start the chapter where I was playing because it's blocked (why?). How can I unlock the chapter without playing all over again?

[Faye]

Originally posted by a bad guy:

I can not start the chapter where I was playing because it's blocked (why?). How can I unlock the chapter without playing all over again?

Open the console and type "sv_unlockedchapters 19". That will make every chapter available.

[thray]

Originally posted by VicF1:

[BMS] Chicken Chonnage
Load Error - Outdated save is incompatible with version of the game...
-> This line do not translated to any language (game_ui)

Old saves are incompatible with the latest beta. Expect future updates to also break game saves.

[Qwahzi]

"Outdated save is incompatible with current version of the game."

Hello all,

I'm playing the Black Mesa beta and yesterday I got to bm_c4a3a1 in the Interloper chapter. However when I try to continue my save today, I get this error: "Outdated save is incompatible with current version of the game."

Any ideas on how to fix this?

-Qwahzi

[Rixxz]

A new update just released, game saves from an older version are incompatible with newer versions, one of the cons of playing the beta. Easiest solution for you would be to simply just restart the chapter

[Qwahzi]

Originally posted by Rixxz:

A new update just released, game saves from an older version are incompatible with newer versions, one of the cons of playing the beta. Easiest solution for you would be to simply just restart the chapter

Damn, thanks for the info! How often do updates come out?

[Paullo]

My suggestion: start the chapter over, enable godmode and speedrun through the level until you get back to wherever you were previously.

Just did it myself. No way in hell I was playing through that much Surface Tension again the hard way.

[thray]

Updates come out when they are ready, there is no set time frame.
If you don't want to be bothered by incompatible saves just wait for the game to come out of Early Access.

[Turtleneck joe]

Originally posted by Paullo:

My suggestion: start the chapter over, enable godmode and speedrun through the level until you get back to wherever you were previously.

Just did it myself. No way in hell I was playing through that much Surface Tension again the hard way.

How do you enable godmode? Had this same thing happen to me right as end of a Xen chapter...

[playername]

Originally posted by Turtleneck joe:

Originally posted by Paullo:

My suggestion: start the chapter over, enable godmode and speedrun through the level until you get back to wherever you were previously.

Just did it myself. No way in hell I was playing through that much Surface Tension again the hard way.

How do you enable godmode? Had this same thing happen to me right as end of a Xen chapter...

1) enable developer console
2) open console
3) type: sv_cheats 1
4) type: god
5) type: noclip
6) exit console
7) fly very fast through the map

ATTENTION: it is very easy to miss spots on the map that trigger loading of the next area.. so if you can remember where those places are, you need to disable the noclip and then walk through them normally to trigger the load. Once you're in the new area re-enable noclip and get to the next spot. WARNING: certain interactions may need to occur for the game to progress normally or the map simply won't end or work (like a boss fight or challenge/puzzle for example). I just had that happen to me. I didn't free a crystal like the map intended and now i can't get it so i'll have to roll back to a previous save (still save doing these cheats periodically).

glhf


Edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=171789218
BUT i'm finding a lot of these entity names aren't working.. so just use command: impulse 101. I find it's really helpful to bind noclip and impulse to keys because of all the map triggers you need to hit under normal circumstances.