Black Mesa

Black Mesa

View Stats:
This topic has been locked
Shibe One May 13, 2015 @ 12:30am
Is Black Mesa Really Worth it?
So I played the free Black Mesa mod back when I came out a few years ago and I really enjoyed it. But the following thoughts are making me reluctant to buy this and they are as follows:

*The devs claimed they would never charge for Black Mesa and that It'd always be a free mod.

*From what I've read they still haven't added Xen to Black Mesa, if this is true, what exactly have they done? Better textures? New features and weapons?

*In comparison to the free mod from a few years ago, what exactly is new?

Don't get me wrong. I really want to get this but £15 for a mod which was said to always be free goes back on their word. I just need some convincing to get this.



ALSO I've read through the FAQs but I just want some answers from people who've actually purchased it and played it already.
Last edited by Shibe One; May 13, 2015 @ 12:31am
< >
Showing 1-15 of 23 comments
Just Chill May 13, 2015 @ 1:10am 
If you're interested in the multiplayer you should buy it.

Otherwise there aren't big differences to the mod version right now.
However, if you want to play Xen you should also purchase it now since the Xen update will be released for free if you already own Black Mesa.

It was also stated somewhere that the devs won't go over 20 bucks so maybe it's also save to wait until full release.
Still I won't say that for sure, since prices can always change...

But for an EA game it runs flawless as far as it goes.
Last edited by Just Chill; May 13, 2015 @ 1:10am
Spence! May 13, 2015 @ 1:10am 
Just to clarify - the mod version is still free, and always will be.

I'll let someone else answer your questions regarding features etc since you're looking for customer opinions.
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] May 13, 2015 @ 1:39am 
Originally posted by Lucchini:
So I played the free Black Mesa mod back when I came out a few years ago and I really enjoyed it. But the following thoughts are making me reluctant to buy this and they are as follows:

*The devs claimed they would never charge for Black Mesa and that It'd always be a free mod.

*From what I've read they still haven't added Xen to Black Mesa, if this is true, what exactly have they done? Better textures? New features and weapons?

*In comparison to the free mod from a few years ago, what exactly is new?

Don't get me wrong. I really want to get this but £15 for a mod which was said to always be free goes back on their word. I just need some convincing to get this.



ALSO I've read through the FAQs but I just want some answers from people who've actually purchased it and played it already.

The promise that we would always be free was made back in 2009, when it was basically impossible for us to get our game on Steam.

When we were Greenlit in 2013, Valve approached us with an offer to go retail, a possibility which we had never even considered possible in the past.

We didn't lie or mislead anyone. Circumstances changed. As soon as we'd finalised and sorted the decision to go retail, we announced it at the end of 2013.[forums.blackmesasource.com]

The free mod is still, and will remain free. We have not gone back on our word for that.

If you read the FAQ then you know a fair bit of what we've done. This includes:

Heavily updated single player experience - The Black Mesa singleplayer experience has greatly improved from the mod release; new visuals, new voiceover, updated gameplay encounters, stability changes and more. Xen is not a part of the Steam release of Black Mesa, but it will be included as a free update to the retail title when it is ready.
Black Mesa Multiplayer - Fight with or against your friends, in two game modes (deathmatch and team deathmatch) across six iconic maps from the Half-Life universe: Bounce, Gasworks, Lambdabunker, Stalkyard, Subtransit and Undertow.
Custom Modding Tools - Use the same tools the developers used to create your own mods, modes and maps for Black Mesa and Black Mesa Multiplayer.
Fully integrated Workshop - And then share your work on the fully integrated workshop!
Complete Steam Integration - Collect trading cards, backgrounds, emoticons, achievements, and everything else you would expect out of a Steam integrated game

In terms of the singleplayer, there were loads of graphical and gameplay improvements made throughout. There are far too many to list.
Grogan May 13, 2015 @ 1:44am 
It's worth it to me, to have a proper game title, with proper Steam functionality, including overlay and updates etc. It's also worth it to have it as nice as it can be. (sorry, I'm not all full of descriptions of differences I can't quite put my finger on, but I perceive parts of it to be better looking, with better effects)

Black Mesa itself is certainly worth $20 to me as it stands. If they'd have asked for it I'd have given it then. As it is, I have no doubt I'm going to want what I'll be getting, as it comes, so it will be well spent. Even if they quit now it would still be worth the money to me, retroactively for what I've already had, but of course there's more to come.

The original Half Life is too retro for me and half life source isn't much better, so I never played those. (I came a bit late to the party). I would have never known how cool any of those games were if not for this. After playing Black Mesa the first time, I went on to get Half Life 2 and its expansions and played through them all again later in Linux. (I didn't enjoy them quite as much as Black Mesa but they were good)

Anyway, money takes a lot of pressure off of people. Having money frees up minds for working on things like this. I hope they actually get some of this money after all the payoffs for licensing/distribution and I wish them success.
KRON May 13, 2015 @ 2:19am 
"Is Black Mesa Really Worth it?" - yes it is. At least, it is for me :)
KOZZA May 13, 2015 @ 2:50am 
best FPS game so far this year !!!
Dahak P1049 May 13, 2015 @ 3:54am 
Who cares? Support the developers. They've earned it.
Matze May 13, 2015 @ 7:45am 
The pricing is a bit unfair if you already own HL2 and several other modern source engine games which come with a full SDK. It sounds like a polished update (not really enough for a full playthrough for me as a casual gamer) with deathmatch mode (which is not really up to modern multiplayer standards nowadays) so I would recommend a price reduction to be fair. Last time I wanted to support Indie/Modding originated developers (of NS2) I got a great looking game that I almost never played, because of performance reasons promised to be addressed soon after release, but then left unoptimized. Will wait for the Xen / Linux release, maybe a sale and then reconsider, because that is indeed true: they earned it.
Last edited by Matze; May 13, 2015 @ 7:47am
Outlaw May 13, 2015 @ 7:49am 
The game looks and plays better than mod. You also have multiplayer and game support. Well worth the money for me.
WhiteZero May 13, 2015 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Matze:
The pricing is a bit unfair if you already own HL2 and several other modern source engine games which come with a full SDK.

It's priced the same as Portal 2, which seems pretty fair to me, as it's even newer. Other newer Source Engine games tend to be around $15 - $20
Shibe One May 13, 2015 @ 10:09am 
Thanks for all your feedback guys.

After reading all your comments I've decided to a wait a little. I don't have any interest in multiplayer but I might get the game at some point, maybe if it goes a bit cheaper. If the entire game was £15 (including when Xen is out I'll totally buy it at full price. But I'll definitely get it at some point.

Thanks again.
WhiteZero May 13, 2015 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Lucchini:
If the entire game was £15 (including when Xen is out I'll totally buy it at full price.

Just to be clear, the entire game is £15/$20. That's the idea behind Early Access: the full, final release game is included with your purchase.
Xavi-Da-Imp May 13, 2015 @ 12:26pm 
Like some dude said about HF2 EP2 in Orange Box:
"If you've loved Half-Life 2 and all it's runty children so far then you'll love this installment because it's pretty much more of the same."

Compare to the free version this game looks better, works smother (only the loading speed is kinda slower), you can play multiplayer and the Soundtrack will blow your mind to shreds (I am still lisening it on my phone when I am on bike tripps, becouse it is so damn good :D).

The only downside (next too slow loading) is the fact that it is Early Access and for me it is kinda uncomfortable, since they already have my money and they can leave the game unfinished and I cant do anything about it. You know, classic Early Access gambit ^^
Damn Dirty Ape May 13, 2015 @ 1:42pm 
Are the graphics worth $20 compared to the free version? Sorry that's the only reason I'd want the paid mod.
Could anyone do a side by side comparison, or does that exist anywhere?
Thanks!
hup May 14, 2015 @ 5:47am 
Is you are a true fan of half life serie/univers
You will like it
< >
Showing 1-15 of 23 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: May 13, 2015 @ 12:30am
Posts: 23