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RAZZA! Jul 9, 2015 @ 6:16pm
Black Ops Assassins are OP
At the start of lambda core, in the warehouse full of shipping containers, the assassins are impossible to bypass without completely ignoring them and running past them. They kick my a$$, even at 100 health and 100 armour, and even when I switch to easy.

Please, they really need to be nerfed. Their 9mm pistols do way too much damage, and for an enemy that jumps around and sneaks up on the player, it's a massive issue. I had no problems with them in the mod version, but in this version they are pretty much female Gordon Freemans wearing assassin outfits.
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Blackhaven Jul 10, 2015 @ 4:13am 
I'm playing on Normal, and as much as I really like Black Mesa the AI really took a step backwards from the mod version. Their weapon damage is overtuned as well (both assassins and marines).

Just my opinion, I still really like it (although I wish Xen would finally be released...)
JamaicanDave Jul 10, 2015 @ 8:51am 
They can be tough. I use the sneaky trick of going into the warehouse just far enough to activate them then quickly run back out the automatic door I entered by. Then when they start appearing on the other side of the door (you can tell by footsteps and shadows) quickly open the door and do a shotgun double blsat. Rinse and repeat. They don't seem able to open the door themselves.

The mp5 grenade launcher is also pretty good at taking them out.
Last edited by JamaicanDave; Jul 10, 2015 @ 8:52am
KRON Jul 10, 2015 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by JamaicanDave:
They can be tough. I use the sneaky trick of going into the warehouse just far enough to activate them then quickly run back out the automatic door I entered by. Then when they start appearing on the other side of the door (you can tell by footsteps and shadows) quickly open the door and do a shotgun double blsat. Rinse and repeat. They don't seem able to open the door themselves.

The mp5 grenade launcher is also pretty good at taking them out.
Hivehand is also usable because of it's homing...things.
i took them out with the MP5 and grenade launcher.

i really wish they could be exploded into bloody chunks like in the original though, it was so satisfying :D
Nemo Jul 19, 2015 @ 7:26am 
Snarks are a good way to deal with assasins
Borodin Jul 19, 2015 @ 9:41am 
Is anyone else having a crashing problem as soon as the gaurd with a message for you gets shot in the throat? My game either CTD or just freezez my rig altogether. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
A_D_M_E_R_A_L Nov 14, 2015 @ 7:38pm 
Hivehand doesn't aim for assasins, used to be in the mod version, not the case here. I want this feature to be back in the upcoming December Update
cryprotree Nov 15, 2015 @ 12:05am 
Assassins are easier than marines to deal with because of their limited rate of fire. However, they are way more agile than grunts.
i-dot Nov 15, 2015 @ 6:36am 
No need to nerf Assassins, they are good enough.

PS I have used mines against assassins.
Rednev444 Nov 15, 2015 @ 7:02am 
The tactic I use against assasins is to hide around a corner of a wall and wait for them to peek round to shoot you. They'l be close at that point and easy to kill. The crossbow is pretty much a one shot kill against them. At least on easy.
Utophiλn Nov 15, 2015 @ 8:42am 
I kick their sweet assses on Hard any day. No need for nerf.
Prosecutor Lurker Nov 15, 2015 @ 3:28pm 
On Hard the Human Assassins are really tuff, I'm guessing that their damage output is big in the long term, and there is not really a optimal way to deal with them with the ordinary weaponary. So it's either traps(tripmine, satchel, grenades), Tau Cannon... Crossbow can work but they usually dodge it.

What I do usually on this level is kill about 2-3 of them before climbing up, and afterwards rushing to the healthkit depo on the top level, which about 5 will spawn. So it's just grenade spam until I reach the container which they can't flank or sneak past me.
Ook Nov 18, 2016 @ 3:34pm 
The assassins are like WFT were they thinking? SERIOUSLY???? I ran around the corner and I was dead in five seconds. Guess running around the corner is not a good strategy.

In HL1, they were annoying, but they did not do so much damage. In BM, they do so much damage you have to resort to subterfuge to make it through.

Or just screw it, sv_cheats 1, god, and leisurely stroll through the area. That is, by the way, a real fun way to fully explore underwater areas that you would otherwise just get a glimpse as you rushed by.
Ook Nov 18, 2016 @ 3:35pm 
And they never miss. No matter how you run, jump, dodge, they never miss.
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] Nov 18, 2016 @ 5:16pm 
We appreciate your concerns, but please don't bump really old threads. Start a new one instead. Thanks.
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