Somehow I don't fully understand

[Ikagura]

fans asked, after the disaster that Half-Life Source was, a real remake of the game.

Fans delivered it yet people are still complaining because it's not fully faithful to the original.

What do people want?

[OutSIdeOfTheBoX (chrisvig71)]

what do people want? it's very simple... to be annoying and rage... i like half life 1 more than this but i LOVE the remake, totally... it's faithfull to the original, the only thign really new are the xen chapters that are some of the best parts of the game, normally they would have been the best part, but the earth chapters were so great and spot on that it's not easy to say, surface tension was... something... btw people complain because black mesa is a masterpiece, but it's too much good, it's too much perfect, and people don't play games for experiences so much good, so they complain... ... no really im not joking, it's so good that some people hate it... people who criticize xen or some things like redisue processing don't even know what they are saying, they view those parts too superficially, but people who likes them are full on emotions and their heart could explode... ... customers are difficult to understand

[CazadorDeLobo]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

fans asked, after the disaster that Half-Life Source was, a real remake of the game.

Fans delivered it yet people are still complaining because it's not fully faithful to the original.

What do people want?

The answer is: The thing they want.

You cannot please everyone. That was never the objective, anyways.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

fans asked, after the disaster that Half-Life Source was, a real remake of the game.

Fans delivered it yet people are still complaining because it's not fully faithful to the original.

What do people want?

The answer is: The thing they want.

You cannot please everyone. That was never the objective, anyways.

Sometimes I feel that gamers as a whole are like these kids that are constantly dissatisfied and never sure what they really want so they complain about anything regardless of what they get offered.

If it's too similar to the previous entry they complain, if it's too different they complain, if a remake is trying something different they also complain but when a remake is "too faithful" they just say "why not playing the original then?".

This is a reason why we got a remake, reboot and requel culture going on for movies (reboots/remakes disguised as sequels like Star Wars The Force Awakens which is basically A New Hope Bis, remakes that are in fact in-universe reboots like FF7 Remake and then when a sequel is too far from the original people think it's a new thing under an already existing brand).

At that point I'm pretty sure that the critics will be negative about Half-Life 3 or if we get fans to remake Half-Life² under Source 2.

Alyx had the excuse of being an "interquel" with a character other than Gordon to be its own thing and then again for many it's more like a tech demo for VR while having elements changed from HL² that they crticised.

After a while maybe we can just accept BM for simply being a different interpretation of Half-Life without trying to replace the original but to offer a new experience.

[pfrigos2017]

O Half - Life Source não é pra ser levado a sério , eu rejoguei ele de novo e dei muitas risadas com os bugs e raiva também em umas partes.

[darks1d3orb1t]

People always want more of what they already have it's always been that way

[eyerobot]

I don't consider the deviation from the original game to be anything worth mentioning. I remember the day i first got the original game. The long intro travel scene was very impressive, But I kept thinking, What a waste of time and data storage room. Once i got into the game, I found it to be very lacking in terms of player guidance. And the scripting was clunky. Once i completed the game, My overall impression was thank god that's over, So i never need to play it again.
They spent way too much time making the levels difficult to complete, And very little time making the levels fun. This was apparent all through the game.
So any deviation from the original is in my opinion a good thing, As it will most likely add fun back into the game. And it did. The final levels were a very good balance of difficulty and fun. Where as the original levels are just never ending mazes of tricks and traps, And leaves you never wanting to play it again. And that's without even mentioning the nice graphics that BM has, Compared to the original, It's no contest.

[darks1d3orb1t]

has anyone tried blue shift remake that is a great mod for black mesa

[Ziyinzhuangyang]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

fans asked, after the disaster that Half-Life Source was, a real remake of the game.

Fans delivered it yet people are still complaining because it's not fully faithful to the original.

What do people want?

How do you know these were the same people? Can you show us even one example?

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Ziyinzhuangyang:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

fans asked, after the disaster that Half-Life Source was, a real remake of the game.

Fans delivered it yet people are still complaining because it's not fully faithful to the original.

What do people want?

How do you know these were the same people? Can you show us even one example?

Maybe they're not the same people but they can also overlap. I'm speaking about the fanbase of the franchise in general, not just HL1 fans.

[Eze]

I remember an old disclaimer in the website of the Black Mesa original mod that became this product. They covered this point with the FAQ.

Q: Are you re-makng Half-Life? Don't change a thing!
A: If you want such product, you can get Half Life Source.

There is a reason why feedback has to be filtered. Purist love even the bad things, they won't let anything move forward. So if you are a purist, just resort to the biggest insult: don't get the product.

[SmellofNapalm]

Take them for what they are. Black Mesa is not Half Life. Neither game has a special right to not be criticized for its flaws. But such flaws are often in the eye of the beholder and people don't have an obligation to like Black Mesa, just like a lot of people have no interest in going back to actually play the original.

[full stamina gaming]

I don't get why I keep seeing this sentiment everywhere

Do you not understand different individuals want different things?

[Cat]

Fans hated Half Life Source because it was full of bugs and the engine doesn't sit well with some aspects of the game (like different hitbox giving the same damage and you can see inside the water from the outside making the shark alien fights less meaningful) although the latter is not really much of an issue.

I don't remember people complaining it's the same as Half Life, the game was marketed as direct source port of half Life.

Black Mesa was marketed as a Half Life reimagined, people expect a remake so yeah, complaining about that is weird but most of the complains is that they removed some of the original content and made it worse. That's not what people expect in a remake and worthy of a complain. Then, you have this brightness issue that many people and I had.

[Ghosta]

Some want a remaster, some want a remake. Workshop offers the potential to revert the remake changes back to original.

I personally have a nostalgia collection for that exact reason.

[Mitsos]

95% rating at 100+ K reviews... What complaining are you talking about? Five people on some forum?