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Syr Nicholas Jan 19, 2016 @ 8:28pm
Lag with 1920x1080 Fullscreen
Hey guys!

When I put the resolution 1920x1080 and Fullscreen, the game starts to lag, like a small drop of fps. If I change to windowed mode or try other resolution, it works without lag.

Do you know why?
Thanks in advance!
Regards!
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Szogyenyi Jan 21, 2016 @ 11:46am 
It's working fine for me!
Jig McGalliger Jan 21, 2016 @ 11:48am 
How do you lag in a single player game?
thray Jan 21, 2016 @ 1:12pm 
You can use FRAPS to measure frames per second (fps). If you experiencing lag or low fps, try lowering the resolution. Experiment with different quality settings.
For meaningful advice, post your system specs.

Originally posted by nRykac:
Hey guys!

When I put the resolution 1920x1080 and Fullscreen, the game starts to lag, like a small drop of fps. If I change to windowed mode or try other resolution, it works without lag.

Do you know why?
Thanks in advance!
Regards!
Syr Nicholas Jan 21, 2016 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by RedEye:
You can use FRAPS to measure frames per second (fps). If you experiencing lag or low fps, try lowering the resolution. Experiment with different quality settings.
For meaningful advice, post your system specs.

Originally posted by nRykac:
Hey guys!

When I put the resolution 1920x1080 and Fullscreen, the game starts to lag, like a small drop of fps. If I change to windowed mode or try other resolution, it works without lag.

Do you know why?
Thanks in advance!
Regards!
Thanks RedEye!
My system specs are:
GeForce GTX 970
Intel Core i7-4770
Windows 10
500gb SSD
16GB RAM

As you can see, there is no problem with my PC. 1920x1080 works fine in windowed mode, but not in fullscreen.

Thanks, Regards!
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] Jan 21, 2016 @ 2:34pm 
There are a variety of tools you can use to see what your framerates are. You can use net_graph 3 in the console and then load up the game to find out what kind of framerates you are getting.

With your rig you should have no problems whatsoever, but it's hard to diagnose because the term "lag" is so misused, broad and vague. Are you referring to stuttering? Overall low framerate? Wonkiness in the game behaviour? Could you clarify what precisely the issue is?
Syr Nicholas Jan 21, 2016 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by BMS Chicken Chonnage:
There are a variety of tools you can use to see what your framerates are. You can use net_graph 3 in the console and then load up the game to find out what kind of framerates you are getting.

With your rig you should have no problems whatsoever, but it's hard to diagnose because the term "lag" is so misused, broad and vague. Are you referring to stuttering? Overall low framerate? Wonkiness in the game behaviour? Could you clarify what precisely the issue is?
Is more like a stutterring. Every 2 seconds, the frames go from 60 to 40 and inmediatelly return to 60. The sound is not affected. Even if I look at the wall, the stutterring is still there.
thray Jan 21, 2016 @ 6:19pm 
Stuttering,
Hmm, here is what I think "windows 10 is a beta is and not ready for primetime". There are other gaming issues on 10 and get mentioned here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3025393/windows/new-windows-10-preview-build-adds-edge-history-but-gamers-should-be-wary
And
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Black_Mesa

Until 10 matures playing in borderless widowed more might be your best option.

Fullscreen on Windows 10
Enable Borderless Fullscreeen. If your game gets a black screen on Windows 10 in fullscreen mode, use this quick fix:
Go to Black Mesa's "Properties" and then "Set launch options."
Enter "-window -noborder".
If you use an adaptive sync monitor, set it to run in windowed mode if possible. This is an option for G-Sync at least.

Keep your bio's (both mb and gpu) updated along with drivers.

TLDR
Drivers/OS needs work

PS nice specs
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] Jan 22, 2016 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by RedEye:
-Snip-

It could be Windows 10, but a large portion of the dev team (myself included) run Windows 10 with no problems at all.

@nRykac - so it occurs even when you are standing still doing nothing (not looking around or moving)? It only occurs on fullscreen, not on windowed?
Syr Nicholas Jan 22, 2016 @ 2:25am 
Originally posted by RedEye:
Stuttering,
Hmm, here is what I think "windows 10 is a beta is and not ready for primetime". There are other gaming issues on 10 and get mentioned here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3025393/windows/new-windows-10-preview-build-adds-edge-history-but-gamers-should-be-wary
And
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Black_Mesa

Until 10 matures playing in borderless widowed more might be your best option.

Fullscreen on Windows 10
Enable Borderless Fullscreeen. If your game gets a black screen on Windows 10 in fullscreen mode, use this quick fix:
Go to Black Mesa's "Properties" and then "Set launch options."
Enter "-window -noborder".
If you use an adaptive sync monitor, set it to run in windowed mode if possible. This is an option for G-Sync at least.

Keep your bio's (both mb and gpu) updated along with drivers.

TLDR
Drivers/OS needs work

PS nice specs

Thanks so much!
I tried "-window -noborder" but it didn't work :(
All the drivers are updated, of course.

Originally posted by BMS Chicken Chonnage:
Originally posted by RedEye:
-Snip-

It could be Windows 10, but a large portion of the dev team (myself included) run Windows 10 with no problems at all.

@nRykac - so it occurs even when you are standing still doing nothing (not looking around or moving)? It only occurs on fullscreen, not on windowed?

Exactly, as you said. I do nothing and the issue is still there. Only on fullscreen and with 1920x1080. If I set the graphics in low, the same behavior happens.
The only difference with 1920x1080 is that it has the word "native" when I select it, but maybe I doesn't matter.

Any other detail I can give you?
Thanks!
Regards!
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] Jan 22, 2016 @ 3:04am 
No, that's about all the useful detail I need, thanks.

The current public beta (which we're aiming to deploy to the main branch of the game in a few days) has some optimisation fixes. Could you try opting into that and seeing if it resolves your issues? You right click on it in Steam, go to properties --> betas, and from the dropdown select "public beta" it should then download an update. Try again, see if that helps, and let me know? Thanks.
I didn't read everything but i see you mentioning 60fps, fullscreen and lag.

Disable: Wait for vertical sync located in options / video / advanced.

In case it's already disabled in game, disable it in Nvidia control panel as well, don't cap fps to 60 in Source games, let it default 300.
Last edited by ắ√øḯd★ℙαўℙαlツ; Jan 22, 2016 @ 2:54pm
Fruity Snacks Jan 22, 2016 @ 7:52pm 
Sounds like micro-stuttering, could also try disabling Multi-core rendering.
Last edited by Fruity Snacks; Jan 22, 2016 @ 7:52pm
Originally posted by Fr0z3nR:
Sounds like micro-stuttering, could also try disabling Multi-core rendering.

Multicore rendering is grayed out in the menu in Black Mesa.
Syr Nicholas Jan 23, 2016 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by RedEye:
Stuttering,
Hmm, here is what I think "windows 10 is a beta is and not ready for primetime". There are other gaming issues on 10 and get mentioned here: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3025393/windows/new-windows-10-preview-build-adds-edge-history-but-gamers-should-be-wary
And
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Black_Mesa

Until 10 matures playing in borderless widowed more might be your best option.

Fullscreen on Windows 10
Enable Borderless Fullscreeen. If your game gets a black screen on Windows 10 in fullscreen mode, use this quick fix:
Go to Black Mesa's "Properties" and then "Set launch options."
Enter "-window -noborder".
If you use an adaptive sync monitor, set it to run in windowed mode if possible. This is an option for G-Sync at least.

Keep your bio's (both mb and gpu) updated along with drivers.

TLDR
Drivers/OS needs work

PS nice specs

Hey, I tried it again, and it works!!! With that mode, I see like 300fps constantly. No stuttering. Thank you!!


Originally posted by BMS Chicken Chonnage:
No, that's about all the useful detail I need, thanks.

The current public beta (which we're aiming to deploy to the main branch of the game in a few days) has some optimisation fixes. Could you try opting into that and seeing if it resolves your issues? You right click on it in Steam, go to properties --> betas, and from the dropdown select "public beta" it should then download an update. Try again, see if that helps, and let me know? Thanks.

I joined to the beta, but was the same. No change. Also, el main menu has the stuttering, not only at the game. I return to the alpha version and use the "-window -noborder" and works fine for now. Thanks!
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