Black Mesa

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Dvayne Reaze Apr 10, 2023 @ 6:40pm
Is Black Mesa canon to Valve's Half-Life Universe?
Did you get approval from valve for it?
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Sgt. Pepper Apr 12, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Yea, it is canon.
Dvayne Reaze Apr 13, 2023 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper:
Yea, it is canon.
Source? Will we get important stuff from Black Mesa in the future?
Engamer01 Apr 13, 2023 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Major Protonic-3 Heartbeat:
Source? Will we get important stuff from Black Mesa in the future?

That depends on Valve. I think they'll go with general story beat references as callbacks in the future, but whether if they'll use anything graphically from Black Mesa remains to be seen.

Like say in the future Valve wants to put Half-Life 2 on Source 2, they could use the spectrometer graphics from Black Mesa instead of the Half-Life 1 version of the spectrometer when G-Man is talking to you at the start of Half-Life 2.
bap803 Apr 13, 2023 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Major Protonic-3 Heartbeat:
Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper:
Yea, it is canon.
Source? Will we get important stuff from Black Mesa in the future?
Black Mesa: Source?
Penis Parker Apr 13, 2023 @ 4:37pm 
It's canon since it's just Half-Life 1 with better gameplay and graphics
Samhouston Apr 13, 2023 @ 11:23pm 
I'd like to think that black mesa and its fan made remakes of other HL games inside of its workshop are canon. Both lore-wise and visually in terms of the black mesa facility layout and the mesa around it.
Dvayne Reaze Apr 14, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by bap803:
Originally posted by Major Protonic-3 Heartbeat:
Source? Will we get important stuff from Black Mesa in the future?
Black Mesa: Source?
Nice joke.
Dvayne Reaze Apr 14, 2023 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Penis Parker:
It's canon since it's just Half-Life 1 with better gameplay and graphics
Yes but as i mentioned Black Mesa changes story of hl1 a bit with reusing hl2 models, adding fast headcrabs.
I think Snarks in Black Mesa and Alyx look a bit different.
G-Man in hl1 had different outfit.
Barney Calhoun at the start looks like not HL2 Barney but that may be minor mistake.
Reeva! Apr 14, 2023 @ 6:15pm 
You want the short answer?
No, it is not canon.

The long answer?
Black Mesa drastically alters Xen to have way more things than it used to. Level design outside of Xen is also drastically different. Gordon went through areas that he did not go to in the original HL1. Some things are canon, most things are not.

Overall, this can be considered head-canon; Your version of events can be canon, to you. But overall, this changes far too much, it's more non-canon than canon.
Yzal Apr 15, 2023 @ 9:04pm 
What is the same as in Half-Life 1 is canon because it's the same.
What it's not the same it's not canon.
Last edited by Yzal; Apr 15, 2023 @ 9:12pm
Ninja Sep 24, 2023 @ 6:48am 
Originally posted by Reeva!:
You want the short answer?
No, it is not canon.

The long answer?
Black Mesa drastically alters Xen to have way more things than it used to. Level design outside of Xen is also drastically different. Gordon went through areas that he did not go to in the original HL1. Some things are canon, most things are not.

Overall, this can be considered head-canon; Your version of events can be canon, to you. But overall, this changes far too much, it's more non-canon than canon.
сам Гейб говорил, что хотел бы видеть Зен таким.
Cat Sep 24, 2023 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by Ninja:
Originally posted by Reeva!:
You want the short answer?
No, it is not canon.

The long answer?
Black Mesa drastically alters Xen to have way more things than it used to. Level design outside of Xen is also drastically different. Gordon went through areas that he did not go to in the original HL1. Some things are canon, most things are not.

Overall, this can be considered head-canon; Your version of events can be canon, to you. But overall, this changes far too much, it's more non-canon than canon.
сам Гейб говорил, что хотел бы видеть Зен таким.
Bonjour, topic ni dah mati Sejak April. :steamfacepalm:
SadlyItsDaniel Sep 25, 2023 @ 12:53am 
Its canon but its more enriched and less bland than the first half life, it makes the game more interesting and immersive
Dvayne Reaze Sep 27, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by SadlyItsDaniel:
Its canon but its more enriched and less bland than the first half life, it makes the game more interesting and immersive
So where are gonomes in Xen?
The funny thing is... who cares?

I understand that the mitification of HL and Hl2 made people to think what exact details may be from the original to try to get all that pieces of the puzzle and try to get "more" of what was in the game/ plot anyways.

The thing is the canon-line work on different lvls, and is not the same for viewers than "for writers"... or in other words, to confront the original lore NEW content nees to get released, then it gets decided if there is or there isnt retcons involved, but at the end of the day is Valve the one who decides to and said decision may change when they want, ussually a new game with certain events will set if they "canonize" certain Black Mesa eleemnts into the series, but to be honest the details are minor and rarely new plots will go deep enough to find any significant differnece between both titles...

This assuming of course more games bound to the HL universe gets released after all.... xD
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Date Posted: Apr 10, 2023 @ 6:40pm
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