Black Mesa

Black Mesa

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avivx1234 Jul 28, 2023 @ 1:15pm
Black Mesa is a boring game?
It's just my personal opinion.
I've played Half Life 2, EP1 and EP2 many times. I really like it, for me it's the best FPS game in the world.
Today I've finished Half Life Alyx for the first time and I liked it too.
Black Mesa (or the original Half Life 1) - I find it really boring. I've reached chapter 4 and I left it. Nothing is too exciting about this game, it's only to survive the black mesa incident and fight Nihilanth in the end. That's it. There is no plot at all, no mystery, no G-MAN.
In HL2 and it's episodes there's always mystery, action, you want to know more about the G-MAN, the combine, Gordon, Eli Vance and his connection to the G-MAN.
In Black Mesa nothing happends in my opinion.
What do you think? Please don't get angry at me. It's just my personal opinion.
I am aware to the fact that HL1 was a commercial success in all over the world.
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Engamer01 Jul 28, 2023 @ 3:46pm 
The main thing about Half-Life 1 (and it's fan remake Black Mesa) is that it didn't have a very detailed story and lore. Some external lore was added through developer interviews across the years and later games, but Half-Life 1 at its core is just an excuse plot to play as a scientist against overwhelming odds.

All you know is Nihilanth is teleporting the Vortigaunts and other aliens to Earth thanks to G-Man's interference, but we don't learn the reason why until Half-Life 2. G-Man to date is still mysterious as the first time the world was introduced to him in 1998. We only know he wants to serve his bosses, but we don't know anything of them or their end goal.

We do know G-Man will do anything to make sure what is wanted is attained even if it's discarding who's no longer useful in favor of more useful assets.
Last edited by Engamer01; Jul 28, 2023 @ 3:47pm
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Cat Jul 29, 2023 @ 4:24am 
Half-life never focused much on story, no major characters besides Gordon, no one monologuing because it's all about show and don't tell. It was Half Life 2 that dived into the story more.

The workplace is kinda boring,(scientist and guards don't look interested working, riding the same tram with same announcement everyday) but in terms of gameplay, Black Mesa becomes boring because Xen doesn't know when to end.

:summercat2023:
Last edited by Cat; Jul 29, 2023 @ 4:25am
painka05 Jul 29, 2023 @ 4:33am 
Maybe that`s because you already know the story.
So do I, but I found the game really interesting, deeper than original and greatly remade.
Last edited by painka05; Jul 29, 2023 @ 4:35am
(deactivated) Jul 31, 2023 @ 11:05am 
Boring ore not its still impressive what fans can do :steamsunny::steamthumbsup:
Cat Jul 31, 2023 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
Originally posted by Cat:
Half-life never focused much on story, no major characters besides Gordon, no one monologuing because it's all about show and don't tell. It was Half Life 2 that dived into the story more.

The workplace is kinda boring,(scientist and guards don't look interested working, riding the same tram with same announcement everyday) but in terms of gameplay, Black Mesa becomes boring because Xen doesn't know when to end.

:summercat2023:
lol the game literally has sections in it, with text on what chapter of the story you are on, the gameplay itself is a story..
I never said it didn't have chapters, with text.
Cyax Jul 31, 2023 @ 5:26pm 
How is this boring? What it is compared to original HL1 is intense. The content to HL1 is massive its what 19 chapters? Also the custom playerbase is endless. I myself have created several deathmatch levels for HL1. It's a timeless engine worth using to this day. Black Mesa brings so much beautification and reason to play to the original HL1 game it's worth it.
avivx1234 Aug 1, 2023 @ 1:19am 
Black Mesa looks amazing, the effort they put in it is really enormous.
But in general I think that the original Half Life 1 (from 1998) is a boring game.
Wertz Aug 9, 2023 @ 4:29pm 
skill issue

nah but seriously, that's ok. nothing's for everyone
Plazehorta Aug 10, 2023 @ 12:10am 
Valve back then didn't have a clear idea where this IP is going. HL1 and HL2 are very different. I prefer HL1's setting over HL2, but which is better would depend on each individual.

HL1 focused more on surviving whatever the way you want. Everything and everyone is a tool to your own survival. There's no wrong way of doing thing as long as you survive. Instead of making NPCs characters. They are highly characterized to a dehumanized degree, and kinda encourages the player to treat them whatever the way they want. They react to player's doing because the developers want the players to try different approaches. Their behaviors making them great distractions, but if you want them to live, they would do their best to help you.

In HL2 however, they got the advanced, photorealistic rendering tech that can expresses characters' emotions in more believable way. They had to shift the direction of their representation with it. Treating NPCs as tools rather than actual characters would be a huge waste for the tech they have. They heavily tuned down the friendly NPCs' aggression toward the players because the new gameplay no longer encourages you to be hostile to them.

Black Mesa kinda tries to be one and another, and it doesn't always work to me.
Last edited by Plazehorta; Aug 10, 2023 @ 12:15am
√\/¡çқε∂ Aug 11, 2023 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by avivx1234:
It's just my personal opinion.
I've played Half Life 2, EP1 and EP2 many times. I really like it, for me it's the best FPS game in the world.
Today I've finished Half Life Alyx for the first time and I liked it too.
Black Mesa (or the original Half Life 1) - I find it really boring. I've reached chapter 4 and I left it. Nothing is too exciting about this game, it's only to survive the black mesa incident and fight Nihilanth in the end. That's it. There is no plot at all, no mystery, no G-MAN.
In HL2 and it's episodes there's always mystery, action, you want to know more about the G-MAN, the combine, Gordon, Eli Vance and his connection to the G-MAN.
In Black Mesa nothing happends in my opinion.
What do you think? Please don't get angry at me. It's just my personal opinion.
I am aware to the fact that HL1 was a commercial success in all over the world.

Apparently you aren't aware of how games of the time were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvanlLDrtk
:bms_crowbar::dusksickles::humiliation::P6::BhopGuru:
0:50-1:12
Last edited by √\/¡çқε∂; Aug 11, 2023 @ 10:05am
half life 1 and black mesa don't get good until we got hostiles. the differents between half life 2 and half life 1. is in HL2 you get straight to the action and then throws headcrabs later unlike half life 1 which is the other way around. also gman is in half life 1. and the plot at first was getting the ♥♥♥♥ out of black mesa, until later you find out you have to kill the nihilanth. and close the portal. like how most people would be if they we're gordon, exept going to xen. atleast half life HAD a story, unlike most games at the time.

also alot was going on in black mesa, so much i cannot explain all of it. but what i can tell you was black mesa team fighting against xen, while also soldiers fighting against both and nihilanth alien grunts and vortigaunt slaves fighting against the military and black mesa team, while also the military and aliens fighting against gordon freeman..
however i can see where you're coming from, i once stopped playing half life until chapter four because i found it boring, and thought HL2 was better, until i got it again and i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loved it because i gave it a chance.
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