Why would HECU soldiers use MP5 as main firearms?

[Ju87gstukas]

Considering they are supposed to deal with aliens, shouldn't they equip something more powerful?

[Peter Brev]

I don't think you meant to "download" cheats.

[Cylixx]

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Chances are you never noticed the soldiers using the grenade launchers because a lot of the time in HL1 they tended to use them when they would be in cover along with the other soldiers throwing grenades, as for the Assassins... those are harder to believe not noticing back in HL1 because they would seek you out versus hide.

You know what I'm done tomorrow i'm gonna download cheats and wait around for one of them to fire a M203 at me. I'll post the results here

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

[Vassago Rain]

Because SMGs were really, really cool in the 90s.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

You know what I'm done tomorrow i'm gonna download cheats and wait around for one of them to fire a M203 at me. I'll post the results here

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

Its honestly something I wish Valve brought back in HL2 that there's one soldier that will use the MP7's Grenade attachment (still trying to figure out that one personally at least the MP5 had a somewhat believable reason for it) but nope, every single soldier with the MP7 would just shoot at you, none would use the grenades for the weapon except you.

[Powerfull]

I'm back. To test it i used the part in surface tension where you exit out of a tunnel right behind a red beret.

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

I don't think you meant to "download" cheats.

Yeah I didn't download anything I just used console commands :P

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

You know what I'm done tomorrow i'm gonna download cheats and wait around for one of them to fire a M203 at me. I'll post the results here

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

I'm not being insufferable, I'm just curious and I rather test it myself then to trust some random.

Anyways... either my game is bugged or you guys are just tripping balls because I stood there for about 5-6 minutes and nothing happened. Why does everybody gets to explode but I don't? :(

[Peter Brev]

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

Its honestly something I wish Valve brought back in HL2 that there's one soldier that will use the MP7's Grenade attachment (still trying to figure out that one personally at least the MP5 had a somewhat believable reason for it) but nope, every single soldier with the MP7 would just shoot at you, none would use the grenades for the weapon except you.

In MMOD, soldiers can now, but as I said a little higher, it's frustrating the way it is implemented. It's not fun to me.

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

I'm back. To test it i used the part in surface tension where you exit out of a tunnel right behind a red beret.

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

I don't think you meant to "download" cheats.

Yeah I didn't download anything I just used console commands :P

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

I'm not being insufferable, I'm just curious and I rather test it myself then to trust some random.

Anyways... either my game is bugged or you guys are just tripping balls because I stood there for about 5-6 minutes and nothing happened. Why does everybody gets to explode but I don't? :(

I've never been able to see a soldier throw a grenade from a M203 in Black Mesa.

[Peter Brev]

Cleared your last reply Powerfull. Really keep it respectful, even if you disagree :)

[Powerfull]

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

Cleared your last reply Powerfull. Really keep it respectful, even if you disagree :)

Fine i'm sorry
Just these two things:
1-@Cylixx the guy was wrong, it was good that i tested it out
2-Marines in general never use their M203s

[Cursed Hawkins]

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Its honestly something I wish Valve brought back in HL2 that there's one soldier that will use the MP7's Grenade attachment (still trying to figure out that one personally at least the MP5 had a somewhat believable reason for it) but nope, every single soldier with the MP7 would just shoot at you, none would use the grenades for the weapon except you.

In MMOD, soldiers can now, but as I said a little higher, it's frustrating the way it is implemented. It's not fun to me.

Just stinks that it comes to a modder having to do that, I mean Valve even officially made the Shotgunners have a different model even if its mainly a reskin of their previous model in an update, it still represents a different kind of soldier in the squad, Valve could have done a similar idea for the soldiers that use the MP7 attachment pretty much with the same update if you ask me.

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

I've never been able to see a soldier throw a grenade from a M203 in Black Mesa.

I was going by memory of HL1, if anything since Black Mesa was a remake/remaster whichever term you use of HL1 they would need to be on hard difficulty as well, so unless it was removed (which would be sad) it should still be there on hard mode, though and I might need to be refreshed but the Assassins might have their stealth generators on any difficulty for Black Mesa.

[Peter Brev]

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

I've never been able to see a soldier throw a grenade from a M203 in Black Mesa.

I was going by memory of HL1, if anything since Black Mesa was a remake/remaster whichever term you use of HL1 they would need to be on hard difficulty as well, so unless it was removed (which would be sad) it should still be there on hard mode, though and I might need to be refreshed but the Assassins might have their stealth generators on any difficulty for Black Mesa.

I always play Black Mesa on Hard, and really never seen it till this day. I mean, I may not have given them much of a chance to try.

Also, it's re-imagining (remake is fine too, but not remaster).

[Vassago Rain]

Only commanders will use the underslung grenade launcher. You can control how often they use it with CVARs.

[Darkstar]

Ok so, gas masks never use anything but mp5

Red beret (hat) use mp5, and uses or avoids the grenade launcher based on MAPPING.

In the original campaign, he is in the first group of HECU you meet, but in that group he never uses it, he will use it later in some areas.
It's controllable by the creator of mods you play, and in the original you gotta figure it out I guess. xD

Goggles use shotgun only

And black guy with cigar and no helmet uses mp5 with grenade only, he shoots with grenade launcher often and it's usually the first thing he attacks you with.

[Cat]

The MP5 seems to be effective against the aliens besides the grunts and gargs so I guess they weren't prepared for those but they were still effective against most of the aliens we saw.

And speaking of original Half Life, the only marine that uses the grenade launcher is the beret (he wears helmet in the ps2 model) and the black guy (who uses more frequently). The ones that couldn't use the launcher can throw hand grenades. Not all berets are coded to use Launchers, some even use shotguns.

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Publicado originalmente por Kooky Tanuki:

It might be hard mode exclusive? I noticed it while trying to kill a marine with their own grenade.

I might need to refresh my memory but I believe in HL1 enemies would have different abilities on the hard difficulty versus their lower difficulty counterparts such as for example the Assassins having that personal stealth generator whenever you fought them on hard.

I think assassins are the only enemies with extra abilities on hard. And slaves fire faster. Other enemies just basically get a health boost.

[Eze]

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

Because it was an MP5 in the original.

An M203 is the grenade launcher underneath the barrel of the MP5 again, why don't they use it?

some use it, others don't. They use it in Half Life.

[Powerfull]

Publicado originalmente por Eze:

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

An M203 is the grenade launcher underneath the barrel of the MP5 again, why don't they use it?

some use it, others don't. They use it in Half Life.

Publicado originalmente por Kooky Tanuki:

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

i've never seen a red beret use the M203, maybe it's because i always kill them quickly?

It might be hard mode exclusive? I noticed it while trying to kill a marine with their own grenade.

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

I might need to refresh my memory but I believe in HL1 enemies would have different abilities on the hard difficulty versus their lower difficulty counterparts such as for example the Assassins having that personal stealth generator whenever you fought them on hard.

I always use the pyrocynical logic when choosing the difficulty of my playthroughs of games so I played on the hardest difficulty on my first run of the game and didn't notice neither the assassin's suppression field nor the M203s, maybe my game is bugged?

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

Publicado originalmente por Cursed Hawkins:

Chances are you never noticed the soldiers using the grenade launchers because a lot of the time in HL1 they tended to use them when they would be in cover along with the other soldiers throwing grenades, as for the Assassins... those are harder to believe not noticing back in HL1 because they would seek you out versus hide.

You know what I'm done tomorrow i'm gonna download cheats and wait around for one of them to fire a M203 at me. I'll post the results here

Publicado originalmente por Powerfull:

I'm back. To test it i used the part in surface tension where you exit out of a tunnel right behind a red beret.

Publicado originalmente por Peter Brev:

I don't think you meant to "download" cheats.

Yeah I didn't download anything I just used console commands :P

Publicado originalmente por Cylixx:

I think you can just trust the guy who told you, instead of being insufferable.

I'm not being insufferable, I'm just curious and I rather test it myself then to trust some random.

Anyways... either my game is bugged or you guys are just tripping balls because I stood there for about 5-6 minutes and nothing happened. Why does everybody gets to explode but I don't? :(