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Toasty Sep 19, 2018 @ 3:55am
Performance Issues
Last year this game ran like butter for me and it runs really poor now. Even on the lowest settings I dip to 30-40 fps.

What happened?


(Yes, I'm aware that my PC has several old parts but Black Mesa used to run fine)

Operating System
Windows 8.1 64-bit
CPU
AMD FX
Zambezi 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) (MS-7641) (CPU1)
Graphics
E275W-1920 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (NVIDIA)
Storage
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM006-2DM164 ATA Device (SATA )
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0 ATA Device
Audio
NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)
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Sweet! Sep 19, 2018 @ 9:04am 
Same problem 4770k gtx 1070
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thray Sep 19, 2018 @ 9:13am 
Do the following.

Restart your computer.

Then disable the following;
In Options, Video, Advanced...
set Dynamic Shadow Quality to DISABLE
set Cascade Shadow Map to DISABLE
set Dynamic Light Quality to VERY LOW
set Antialiasing Mode to NONE

Under the Black Mesa tab .. Uncheck God Rays

Also Decrease your resolution



#2
DarkStar Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:22pm 
This is new lighting and rays have are so bad optimithation. In some places i have a fall FPS. Especially in teleport at Lambda complex before get to Xen, still lags so much and fighting with Controllers its quite difficult. In 2012 version i've dont had a fall FPS so much. I hope devs will fix it. Please ^^
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Toasty Sep 19, 2018 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by Schrödinger's Dog:
Do the following.

Restart your computer.

Then disable the following;
In Options, Video, Advanced...
set Dynamic Shadow Quality to DISABLE
set Cascade Shadow Map to DISABLE
set Dynamic Light Quality to VERY LOW
set Antialiasing Mode to NONE

Under the Black Mesa tab .. Uncheck God Rays

Also Decrease your resolution
I did all but lowering the resolution because I'm using fullscreen and don't want the game to be super blurry. It runs better but it still dips hard. In outdoor areas the fps is usually around 50-60 and whenever there's an explosion it drops to 30-40. There must be something going on. I used to play with mostly high settings and rarely dipped below 60.
#4
FEARGASM Sep 19, 2018 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by Toasty:
Originally posted by Schrödinger's Dog:
Do the following.

Restart your computer.

Then disable the following;
In Options, Video, Advanced...
set Dynamic Shadow Quality to DISABLE
set Cascade Shadow Map to DISABLE
set Dynamic Light Quality to VERY LOW
set Antialiasing Mode to NONE

Under the Black Mesa tab .. Uncheck God Rays

Also Decrease your resolution
I did all but lowering the resolution because I'm using fullscreen and don't want the game to be super blurry. It runs better but it still dips hard. In outdoor areas the fps is usually around 50-60 and whenever there's an explosion it drops to 30-40. There must be something going on. I used to play with mostly high settings and rarely dipped below 60.
its probably a mix between the new unoptimized lighting and your cpu.. seriously who builds a pc with a gtx 1080 and a fx cpu? talk about a bottleneck.

you should seriously consider upgrading your cpu.. your gtx 1080 is capable of ALOT more. but your cpu is holding it back.
#5
Myth[Alex] Sep 19, 2018 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by Toasty:
Last year this game ran like butter for me and it runs really poor now. Even on the lowest settings I dip to 30-40 fps.

What happened?

(Yes, I'm aware that my PC has several old parts but Black Mesa used to run fine)

Operating System
Windows 8.1 64-bit
CPU
AMD FX
Zambezi 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) (MS-7641) (CPU1)
Graphics
E275W-1920 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (NVIDIA)
1. Have you made any (major) changes to your PC since the last time (January) you played the game?
2. Have you tested other Source engine-based games to see if they also perform worse?
3. Do you believe that your current gpu driver may be badly configured? in this case, use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller - do a google search for it) to properly get rid of the corrupt files. After that, you can safely install the driver you want.
3.1. Are you using one of the most recent drivers for your gpu? they're known to cause framerate / performance issues in certain games. (hint: green team is optimizing their new drivers for their shiny RTX series) My suggestion is to download an older version (398.36 or 398.11) and test the game again.

Edit:
User @FEARGASM is also correct. That cpu isn't good for your gtx 1080.
Last edited by Myth[Alex]; Sep 19, 2018 @ 9:13pm
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Forward Bias Sep 19, 2018 @ 9:53pm 
Originally posted by Toasty:
Last year this game ran like butter for me and it runs really poor now. Even on the lowest settings I dip to 30-40 fps.

What happened?


(Yes, I'm aware that my PC has several old parts but Black Mesa used to run fine)

Operating System
Windows 8.1 64-bit
CPU
AMD FX
Zambezi 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
MSI 760GMA-P34(FX) (MS-7641) (CPU1)
Graphics
E275W-1920 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (NVIDIA)
Storage
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM006-2DM164 ATA Device (SATA )
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0 ATA Device
Audio
NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM)

Why on earth would you pair an AMD FX chip with a GTX 1080? That's like trying to fly a plane with a large parachute open on the back, wondering why you're going so slow at full throttle.
#7
Toasty Sep 20, 2018 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by Radboy16:
Why on earth would you pair an AMD FX chip with a GTX 1080? That's like trying to fly a plane with a large parachute open on the back, wondering why you're going so slow at full throttle.

Originally posted by MythAlex:
User @FEARGASM is also correct. That cpu isn't good for your gtx 1080.

Originally posted by FEARGASM:
its probably a mix between the new unoptimized lighting and your cpu.. seriously who builds a pc with a gtx 1080 and a fx cpu? talk about a bottleneck.

you should seriously consider upgrading your cpu.. your gtx 1080 is capable of ALOT more. but your cpu is holding it back.

I plan on upgrading but I haven't been able to buy everything I need at once. I put the 1080 in because my old GPU was dying.



Originally posted by MythAlex:
1. Have you made any (major) changes to your PC since the last time (January) you played the game?
2. Have you tested other Source engine-based games to see if they also perform worse?
3. Do you believe that your current gpu driver may be badly configured? in this case, use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller - do a google search for it) to properly get rid of the corrupt files. After that, you can safely install the driver you want.
3.1. Are you using one of the most recent drivers for your gpu? they're known to cause framerate / performance issues in certain games. (hint: green team is optimizing their new drivers for their shiny RTX series) My suggestion is to download an older version (398.36 or 398.11) and test the game again.

Since the last time I played I've swapped out my hard drive for a new one and I've put in my 1080.

Other source games perform the same way they always have.

I have no reason to suspect my gpu is badly configured as everything else works fine.

I'm using the most recent drivers from geforce experience.
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