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Mr. Pink Jun 28, 2019 @ 2:39pm
New enemies in Earth levels
Since they began to move away from the rule of not being so strict in content outside the original HL, adding variants of Houndeyes and zombies that did not exist in the original game, what happens with adding some new enemy (or maybe recycle concepts) beta) for levels on Earth?
The first thing that comes to my mind is the Gonomes, which beyond being a Gearbox creation, are still little more than a zombie variety and do not really feel out of place. They could easily be part of levels like Residues Processing, one of the most boring areas of the original game (and here too) to help improve the environment and provide interesting matches.
Or the Floats that were cut from On to Rail. That could also have been an interesting addition to the new Xen.
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Make your own modification...Crowbar Collective is very busy. If you desire to expand the gameplay, make mods.
Last edited by Lil C]-[ew C]-[ew is ☂д☂; Jun 28, 2019 @ 2:42pm
Mr. Pink Jun 28, 2019 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ಥ﹏ಥ:
Make your own modification...Crowbar Collective is very busy. If you desire to expand the gameplay, make mods.
I'm not modder and it's just a suggestion.
Originally posted by Quiver:
Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ಥ﹏ಥ:
Make your own modification...Crowbar Collective is very busy. If you desire to expand the gameplay, make mods.
I'm not modder and it's just a suggestion.
Use https://forums.blackmesasource.com/ if you want to be taken seriously.
IMO, they should add the male black ops troops from Opposing Force. It'd make the fights with black ops more interesting.
Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ಥ﹏ಥ:
Make your own modification...Crowbar Collective is very busy. If you desire to expand the gameplay, make mods.
Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ಥ﹏ಥ:
Originally posted by Quiver:
I'm not modder and it's just a suggestion.
Use https://forums.blackmesasource.com/ if you want to be taken seriously.


Why are you so hostile? No seriously? You act like this forum is YOUR playground and if a topic isn't for you that you should just shoot it down. He opened the topic for discussion, not for a 100% lets demand it, grow up.


As for OP.
I don't know. Honestly the houndeyes and the reasoning didn't make much sense to me and they felt out of place overall. If they had the houndeyes as being explosive when they are babies like that, makes sense.... whole unstable energy thing can make sense but maybe build a nest for them to be in and have a parent guarding them? Or just add chumtoads... they could hop and explode if the player gets too close and would fit well into the new Xen BM made.

As for adding the others, gonomes don't feel out of place and that would make sense to me but the whole Race X stuff with the drones and shock troopers didnt make sense.

But anyway, overall I feel like the only one that should be added in is maybe gonomes.
Last edited by (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★; Jun 28, 2019 @ 6:52pm
1v4n94 Jun 28, 2019 @ 7:02pm 
I would love to see Male Assassins (Male Black Ops) added. The other aliens from the Gearbox expansions, however... I don't know.
Colonel Orange Jun 28, 2019 @ 7:04pm 
Gearbox's aliens are unique, not sure I'd like them on Earth, remember Race X wasn't canon until Gearbox came along. I personally don't see Race X as canon and I would find it a bit jarring to see them on earth. Definitley for the Male assassins though, those guys are badass.
Doc Tear Popper Jun 29, 2019 @ 1:59am 
Gonomes and Male Assassins would fit in the HL universe the most out of all of Gearbox's creations.
Cat Jun 29, 2019 @ 2:43am 
They already said they aren't adding new enemies when someone asked for a Gonome last year.

I prefer they add the alien turrets.
GamerXT Jun 29, 2019 @ 3:12am 
I would say the games world isnt really large enough for more enemy types, what the game really needs is more voices for soliders
Last edited by GamerXT; Jun 29, 2019 @ 3:13am
Utophiλn Jun 29, 2019 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by 3 Ducks In a Man Suit:
IMO, they should add the male black ops troops from Opposing Force. It'd make the fights with black ops more interesting.

Originally posted by 1v4n94:
I would love to see Male Assassins (Male Black Ops) added. The other aliens from the Gearbox expansions, however... I don't know.


There's no such thing as Black Ops in original Half-Life.
Last edited by Utophiλn; Jun 29, 2019 @ 4:02am
DaimeneX Jun 29, 2019 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by Utophiλn:
Originally posted by 3 Ducks In a Man Suit:
IMO, they should add the male black ops troops from Opposing Force. It'd make the fights with black ops more interesting.

Originally posted by 1v4n94:
I would love to see Male Assassins (Male Black Ops) added. The other aliens from the Gearbox expansions, however... I don't know.


There's no such thing as Black Ops in original Half-Life.

Excuse me, what about the female Black Ops assassins with double silenced glocks? They appear before Freeman gets captured by HECU and in Lambda Complex (Or right before it) I believe.

Edit: From official forums "The Black Ops first appear in Sector E in Half-Life during the chapter Apprehension, and later make one more appearance in Sector F, during the chapter Lambda Core. Only Female Black Ops are seen by Gordon Freeman in the game."
Last edited by DaimeneX; Jun 29, 2019 @ 4:47am
Utophiλn Jun 29, 2019 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by DaimeneX:
Originally posted by Utophiλn:


There's no such thing as Black Ops in original Half-Life.

Excuse me, what about the female Black Ops assassins with double silenced glocks? They appear before Freeman gets captured by HECU and in Lambda Complex (Or right before it) I believe.

Edit: From official forums "The Black Ops first appear in Sector E in Half-Life during the chapter Apprehension, and later make one more appearance in Sector F, during the chapter Lambda Core. Only Female Black Ops are seen by Gordon Freeman in the game."

What I meant, in original Half-Life there was no Black Ops faction, it was added/introduced by Gearbox in Opposing Force. Female assassins was assumed to be part of the HECU, especially after the apprehension encounter It was kinda obvious that they work together. The term HECU itself, was also introduced only in Opposing Force. In Half-Life was called as soldiers, army, or marines. There was no mention of HECU.

Now Gearbox decided to divide them into two groups for mainly gameplay (having human grunt foes), and story purposes.
Last edited by Utophiλn; Jun 29, 2019 @ 5:03am
Cylixx Jun 29, 2019 @ 5:08am 
Many months ago we got a little bit of confirmation on this. Though nothing is set in stone.

The new Alien Grunt type will replace the grunt currently encountered in Black Mesa. But that's about it. The Vaughtigaunt from Xen may replace the one's found on earth, but they would be default hostile on earth like it is currently.

HEV zombies are only on Xen.

Controllers (flying bhuddah round-heads) however I don't know. They are only seen in Lambda core on earth, so they might just be replaced with the Xenian version similar to the Grunts.

Houndeye's in Xen a mystery too, got no idea what's gonna happen there. Depends, do they explode only because they are in Xen? That sorta thing is for the devs to decide. I'd be interested to know why there ae exploding ones now. Similar to lambdent locusts in Gears of War maybe?
Last edited by Cylixx; Jun 29, 2019 @ 5:08am
DIGITAL SPORTS  [developer] Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:00am 
We're only keeping our unique variants (such as the Hoteye, etc) within Xen. As a way to keep a bit of extra variety.

The Xen variants of the Vorts/Agrunts might make it to Earth at some point (as they're basically superior to the existing versions in every way), but that'll require careful balancing and adaptation on our part. We might be tempted to just leave it as is.
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