What's the point of frameworks since I cant update them?

[Qoff]

So why should I create frameworks? It take longer and I cant update them, the royalties they pay doesnt seems to worth it.

[VayneVerso]

I don't get it either. I don't use them, because they're already out of date by the time you would want to use them again. The only thing about them is that other companies will sometimes license your frameworks from you and pay you a royalty, but I don't think it's a good enough reason to create one.

[Qoff]

Originally posted by TheWatcherUatu:

I don't get it either. I don't use them, because they're already out of date by the time you would want to use them again. The only thing about them is that other companies will sometimes license your frameworks from you and pay you a royalty, but I don't think it's a good enough reason to create one.

Exactly, they're always outdated

[DailyDoseOfStress]

Actually they get outdated because most forget them and don’t use them often. They speed up development on the next version and you can continuously use them to help you achieve better and faster results.

[Miksus]

Originally posted by The Stress Factor:

Actually they get outdated because most forget them and don’t use them often. They speed up development on the next version and you can continuously use them to help you achieve better and faster results.

Yes, but only in the same tech lvl. So when I have framework in 2D from 1982, if i want to make product with 2D from 1983 then framework doesn't work. So it was waste of time to make framework, unless you don't want to use new technology next time.

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[Qoff]

Originally posted by Miksus:

Originally posted by The Stress Factor:

Actually they get outdated because most forget them and don’t use them often. They speed up development on the next version and you can continuously use them to help you achieve better and faster results.

Yes, but only in the same tech lvl. So when I have framework in 2D from 1982, if i want to make product with 2D from 1983 then framework doesn't work. So it was waste of time to make framework, unless you don't want to use new technology next time.

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Pretty much this, you can't update the tech year.

[Obiwan]

you can if you do the research ... the point is that if you patent the latest research you own and patent the framework and can make bank on the AI using said framework for their own proejects.

[Obiwan]

don't do the "pretty much this" thing if you didn't actually read the information provided on both frameworks and research.

[Miksus]

So tell me. How to update framework?

I have the impression that we are talking about one thing and you are talking about some completely different things.

[VayneVerso]

Originally posted by Miksus:

So tell me. How to update framework?

I have the impression that we are talking about one thing and you are talking about some completely different things.

He could have been nicer about it, but he's talking about patenting a new technology level through the research system and then releasing a software product with a new framework that leverages said patented technology. NPCs will pay a licensing fee to use your framework because it's better than what they have.

This doesn't really address the questionable utility of frameworks in all other practical contexts, though.

[Miksus]

Yeah. Only we all know we can research new technologies and patent it. Also you can make framework for every technology, even you don't have patent. This is a completely different matter. Not to mention that royalties for the framework is already mentioned in the first post.

Even more "you can if you do the research" is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Because it isn't an update, but a creation of a new one. Each time, for a new level of technology and for each type of software, you need to create a new framework.

This is what we talk about all the time. Can't update, no use for next projects unless it is on the same tech lvl(which is unlikely), royalties not worth. We can only help the competition to make competitive products faster.

If it's not talking about some completely different things, it's just talking nonsense.

[Qoff]

People like to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the internet. Of course researching is a thing, but it really doesn't solve the framework not being able to get updated.

[DailyDoseOfStress]

I just found my next tutorial for my software inc videos :)

[DailyDoseOfStress]

I also have a Q&A this Thursday if anyone is interested in attending

[BigSilverHotdog]

I found a creative use of framework for advantage. Design a product for a massive potential market (like OS, games, etc) and aim it very clearly at one segment of the market target triangle then immediately use that framework to rapidly push out 2 other very similar products that target the other 2 market segments. Yes, you will have to throw some boost away by changing features for new targeting, but it will still go through the entire product development cycle extremely quickly and with clever use of shared features and market targeting this strategy can be very lucrative on Impossible.

One other thing: You guys are way too obsessed with keeping your product features on the most current tech level. It affects sales but not very much in most cases. It is much more important to gain recognition and for the product quality to be extremely high. Even products with very outdated tech levels can make large amounts of money if you have wide recognition and the product quality is great or outstanding. Try it!

[Miksus]

Indeed, I am very curious if I would released at the same time, for example, two Audio products but one would focus 100% on composing and the other 100% on recording, would they sell equally well or compete with each other.

This new changes in alpha 11 and new market targeting system is very confusing for me. Especially since I can make a program that has all the options, it's perfect for everything and the best at everything. But it isn't possible to target the program to everyone. And somehow "wasted interest" come up. So when I set my target marketing to 100% composing then what? People interested in recording won't be interested in my program at all, even though it is also 100% best for recording. "Nah, maybe it is the best in recording, but this dude make other target in design document, so I am not intrested"

Actually, I feel frustrated with this new system. I feel like it doesn't make sense. How would this work? I don't see anything logical behind this mechanic.
When I create a program that has everything 100%, and I change market targeting in random directions, is these 100% people changing all the time? or it's the same group of people all the time who just wants an audio program that is 100% market targeting regardless of balance? How many people are interested in composing and how many recording?
Seriously, this is a step away from the simulation game.