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James4038 Jun 24, 2020 @ 4:31pm
The cash shop
First up the cash shop is only selling cosmetic items and emotes and I don't really have a problem with this, what I do have a problem with is the fact the way the shop works is predatory and designed in a way to confuse and hide the amount an item costs.

The first problem I see with the cash shop is the fact that you have to buy QBITS that you then use to buy the cosmetics, the problem with this is its only there to confuse you so you don't realise how much your spending.

The second problem is a direct result of the first as you have to buy QBITS with real money and then the cosmetics it’s hard to get a perfect match as an example the robot bundle is 1800 QBITS but you can’t just buy 1800 you have to buy 500, 1000, 2000, or 2500. If you buy a larger amount of QBITS you do get a bonus amount 100 for the 1000, 300 for the 2000 and 500 for the 2500. This makes calculating the exact £ or $ amount for 100 bits harder to do.

The third problem is if you buy every item currently on sale it the shop and buy the best amounts of QBITS to do so you will be left with 150 QBITS left and nothing to use them on and no way to get the money back. The only reason this system is do in this way it to push people into spending more than they mean too and obfuscating the prices of the cosmetics they are selling.

I like the game and I’m grateful to the developers for continuing to update it and add new content, and I realise they have to pay the staff, but the way this shop has been implemented leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If the items in the shop simply had a price on them and the whole QBITS in game currency was removed I don’t think it would be so bad.

In conclusion you’re free to buy the cosmetics if you want, and they aren’t needed to enjoy the game I just wish the developers were more upfront in how much items in the shop cost instead of obfuscating it using the in game currency which at the time of writing the only method of obtain is real world money.
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Voidling Cee Jun 24, 2020 @ 5:08pm 
i echo a lot of your own sentiment, while i didnt do the maths on how much the catalogue costs i agree and voiced a lot of the same complaints in my own thread here previously
James4038 Jun 24, 2020 @ 5:17pm 
After doing the maths it would cost $164.92 to buy everything currently on sale, by purchasing 6 packs of 2500, 1 pack of 1000 and 1 pack of 500. this would also leave you with 150 QBITS with nothing to use them on.
Skookumsquitch Jun 24, 2020 @ 5:54pm 
I haven't a clue what System Era was thinking when releasing their microtransactions; it seems like a total scam. I would be fine with them if they were also unlockable in-game at reasonable prices, but even then it'd be uncomfortable.
James4038 Jun 24, 2020 @ 6:01pm 
have to agree after checking some more if you pay for the 500 QBITS packs every time we can say that 100 QBITS is $1 and you need 19450 QBITS to buy everything so if you work it out that way its around $194.50.
HylianLZ Jun 24, 2020 @ 8:22pm 
Has anyone done all the Exo Request Platform goals already? There are unlockable cosmetics there, but the initial set isn't in the Exo Outfitters store. Perhaps later sets are the same as in the store?
Voidling Cee Jun 24, 2020 @ 9:36pm 
the Exo Request platforms appear to just be a new "event" for commemoration for hte automation event, they "could" put the premium currecny behind it later, or atleast means of getting select cash shop items form it, but i wont hold my breath for it until we get actaul dev confirmation
InsertCoin Jun 24, 2020 @ 9:59pm 
How do you think we have free dlc's? yea the cash shop, get used to it
Flux Jun 24, 2020 @ 10:11pm 
It's not free if you have to pay for it :P
VolteVaris Jun 25, 2020 @ 12:26am 
you can't please everyone. those that have been playing a while don't mind as much. now that we have them the vocal majority is the ones that never asked for them.
i've seen people who wanted more ways to support the game and it's development post-launch
this is that.
Immortan Johann Jun 25, 2020 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by James4038:
After doing the maths it would cost $164.92 to buy everything currently on sale, by purchasing 6 packs of 2500, 1 pack of 1000 and 1 pack of 500. this would also leave you with 150 QBITS with nothing to use them on.
Then buy only what you want. None of this stuff is required. If enough people don't buy it, or at least ignore a large portion of it, SES should hopefully learn what the fanbase does and doesn't want. No one can be mad at SES for this when they've promised free updates forever, which is more than most developers can do.
Mharr Jun 25, 2020 @ 4:04am 
Originally posted by Immortan_Johann:
If enough people don't buy it, or at least ignore a large portion of it, SES should hopefully learn what the fanbase does and doesn't want.
That's not how this plays out. The cash shop will be a success in the sense that a few individuals will buy everything in it, and once they're mined out it will be made gradually worse to widen the net. It doesn't matter what the majority do.
Immortan Johann Jun 25, 2020 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Mharr:
Originally posted by Immortan_Johann:
If enough people don't buy it, or at least ignore a large portion of it, SES should hopefully learn what the fanbase does and doesn't want.
That's not how this plays out. The cash shop will be a success in the sense that a few individuals will buy everything in it, and once they're mined out it will be made gradually worse to widen the net. It doesn't matter what the majority do.

Assuming you're right, it's the developer's fault, not the consumer. SES has giving you four years of free updates for all new in-game content from a broken, pre-alpha game to a multiplayer version for $20. They could have abandoned this game at any point in competition of any game like Minecraft, No Man's Sky, Subnautica, etc.

TL;DR actually wait until you see how SES takes this new approach to a skin shop before you rebuke a new developer for trying to get extra money for no in-game incentive.
James4038 Jun 25, 2020 @ 5:46am 
As i said in my original post its not that the cash shop exists that really bothers me, its the way its been implemented with an in game currency that serves no purpose but to get you to spend more than you want too.

If all you want is a single visor colour that’s 100 QBITS you have to buy the 500 pack that’s a predatory transaction to get people to overspend and it wrong no matter how you look at it. If the items just had a $ amount to pay for them I wouldn’t be complaining.
+1
I agree, the system is not good and tbh is just a copy of fortnite if you look at the layout. If SES needs money, increase the price of the game or put out a DLC. Increasing the price by a few dollars will not really change how many people buy the game, but it will make quite a bit more money.
Psycholocomotor Jun 25, 2020 @ 6:11am 
I only have a problem with the price of the Robot Suit
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Date Posted: Jun 24, 2020 @ 4:31pm
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