Bring back the rank system!

[Devana]

Now at each rank there is a mix from a beginner to an eSportsman. All ranks are the same. It all depends on the lottery, with whom you will be on the team and who will be against you. In addition, there are groups with smurfs who drop the ranks of their friends or earn money that way. And the worst thing is that if you have a full team of friends who play at an average level, then you will win almost nothing with them, because you will always end up against professionals. I am silent about the fact that even a professional player who plays pro-league at tournaments and rarely enters the ranks will have copper or bronze :) Ranks should depend on skills and ability to play, not on time spent online. Bring back an adequate ranking system!

[Mistah Haskins]

Originally posted by Talena:

Now at each rank there is a mix from a beginner to an eSportsman. All ranks are the same. It all depends on the lottery, with whom you will be on the team and who will be against you. In addition, there are groups with smurfs who drop the ranks of their friends or earn money that way. And the worst thing is that if you have a full team of friends who play at an average level, then you will win almost nothing with them, because you will always end up against professionals. I am silent about the fact that even a professional player who plays pro-league at tournaments and rarely enters the ranks will have copper or bronze :) Ranks should depend on skills and ability to play, not on time spent online. Bring back an adequate ranking system!

Smurfing isn't an issue anymore because even with me and my friends being Copper and Bronze with the occasional Silver - Gold we still are getting matched against Emeralds and even Champs which is insane to do.

The new system rewards you on how much you play rather than how good you are. If you just play a crap ton of Ranked everyday for the entire season you will hit a high rank but that does depend on where your plateau is. Mine for some reason is Bronze 2 and then I start gaining 37RP and losing 27RP.

New system is trash and needs to be fixed but its whatever

[R3vox]

Nah I’m champ now. It’s a good system 😂

[Ineedamint]

Insane fluctuation in player skill is what makes 2.0 so frustriating to me. Old system, you had 3200 mmr and you knew you were playing against high golds low plats. Now there's no mmr, game shows you rank as gold, yet some matches you go against diamonds and other times you play against people who don't know default cams. Both matches end up in stomps and stomps obviosly aren't fun for the losing end.

[Devana]

Originally posted by R3vox:

Nah I’m champ now. It’s a good system 😂

[Devana]

Originally posted by Mistah Haskins:

Originally posted by Talena:

Now at each rank there is a mix from a beginner to an eSportsman. All ranks are the same. It all depends on the lottery, with whom you will be on the team and who will be against you. In addition, there are groups with smurfs who drop the ranks of their friends or earn money that way. And the worst thing is that if you have a full team of friends who play at an average level, then you will win almost nothing with them, because you will always end up against professionals. I am silent about the fact that even a professional player who plays pro-league at tournaments and rarely enters the ranks will have copper or bronze :) Ranks should depend on skills and ability to play, not on time spent online. Bring back an adequate ranking system!

Smurfing isn't an issue anymore because even with me and my friends being Copper and Bronze with the occasional Silver - Gold we still are getting matched against Emeralds and even Champs which is insane to do.

The new system rewards you on how much you play rather than how good you are. If you just play a crap ton of Ranked everyday for the entire season you will hit a high rank but that does depend on where your plateau is. Mine for some reason is Bronze 2 and then I start gaining 37RP and losing 27RP.

New system is trash and needs to be fixed but its whatever

Suppose you were always a diamond vs. one season you didn't have time to play and ended it on a copper? Then next time the system won't let you take higher copper?

[Devana]

Originally posted by Ineedamint:

Insane fluctuation in player skill is what makes 2.0 so frustriating to me. Old system, you had 3200 mmr and you knew you were playing against high golds low plats. Now there's no mmr, game shows you rank as gold, yet some matches you go against diamonds and other times you play against people who don't know default cams. Both matches end up in stomps and stomps obviosly aren't fun for the losing end.

I also often notice that I have one game against professionals and another against newbies.

[Malarkey]

They shouldn't have removed the team MMR limitations at the same time which makes these games boosted smurf fiestas, or at least add a Solo Queue. I've asked for that for like 6 years at this point, I stopped playing because of it.

[Mistah Haskins]

Originally posted by Talena:

Originally posted by Mistah Haskins:

Smurfing isn't an issue anymore because even with me and my friends being Copper and Bronze with the occasional Silver - Gold we still are getting matched against Emeralds and even Champs which is insane to do.

The new system rewards you on how much you play rather than how good you are. If you just play a crap ton of Ranked everyday for the entire season you will hit a high rank but that does depend on where your plateau is. Mine for some reason is Bronze 2 and then I start gaining 37RP and losing 27RP.

New system is trash and needs to be fixed but its whatever

Suppose you were always a diamond vs. one season you didn't have time to play and ended it on a copper? Then next time the system won't let you take higher copper?

I think it's based on your hidden MMR too also. By hidden MMR I mean the rank that is shown doesn't matter anymore but in the background you can be a Plat 3 in matchmaking MMR and be a Copper 1 in the shown Ranked MMR (the Icon that symbolizes your current season rank). My highest rank on PC was Silver 4 which was about 2200 MMR or around there. (2200 MMR is Silver 3 now with the RP system)

To answer your question: I am assuming based off what I achieved before; it goes for your HIGHEST rank you have ever achieved in Ranked regardless of if it was MMR or RP based. If you hit Champ before you'll hit Emerald 5+ before you'll start capping in RP gain (Meaning you lose about as much as you gain).

To back that up I have asked friends and even documented their R6 stats via R6Tracker and it all checks out even for all of them. They were getting upwards of 150+ RP a win and were shooting through Copper - Gold and then in Plat were still gaining 120ish maybe even 100 and then when they hit Emerald they fizzled out and were gaining around 60-70 RP a win and then Diamond they were getting 30-40ish a win. The loss of RP is just below the amount they gain so it varies.

[Devana]

Originally posted by Malarkey:

They shouldn't have removed the team MMR limitations at the same time which makes these games boosted smurf fiestas, or at least add a Solo Queue. I've asked for that for like 6 years at this point, I stopped playing because of it.

I hoped that there would be a rank system, like in CS - where everything is clear and stable.

[Devana]

Originally posted by Mistah Haskins:

Originally posted by Talena:

Suppose you were always a diamond vs. one season you didn't have time to play and ended it on a copper? Then next time the system won't let you take higher copper?

I think it's based on your hidden MMR too also. By hidden MMR I mean the rank that is shown doesn't matter anymore but in the background you can be a Plat 3 in matchmaking MMR and be a Copper 1 in the shown Ranked MMR (the Icon that symbolizes your current season rank). My highest rank on PC was Silver 4 which was about 2200 MMR or around there. (2200 MMR is Silver 3 now with the RP system)

To answer your question: I am assuming based off what I achieved before; it goes for your HIGHEST rank you have ever achieved in Ranked regardless of if it was MMR or RP based. If you hit Champ before you'll hit Emerald 5+ before you'll start capping in RP gain (Meaning you lose about as much as you gain).

To back that up I have asked friends and even documented their R6 stats via R6Tracker and it all checks out even for all of them. They were getting upwards of 150+ RP a win and were shooting through Copper - Gold and then in Plat were still gaining 120ish maybe even 100 and then when they hit Emerald they fizzled out and were gaining around 60-70 RP a win and then Diamond they were getting 30-40ish a win. The loss of RP is just below the amount they gain so it varies.

My cousin played on gold-platinum, but they began to be removed more than they were given on silver. But she didnt play one season.