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Fierais Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:53pm
Why Do i lose elo when i win against a hacker???
Winning against a hacker shouldnt be a punishment to your elo? Tell me how that makes sense ubisoft
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Originally posted by UbiMorning:
Originally posted by Fierais:
Winning against a hacker shouldnt be a punishment to your elo? Tell me how that makes sense ubisoft
We explained this a bit in our Dev Blog.[www.ubisoft.com]
The whole point, as the others have mentioned, is the system revokes any MMR that was impacted as if that match never existed. The system takes back any MMR you won while playing with a cheater, and gives back any MMR you lost while playing against a cheater. We mentioned testing a one-sided MMR Rollback system and found that it could potentially inflate MMR, which we want to avoid.
However, we have been taking note of people getting upset when they lose MMR for overcoming a cheater. Hope this helps clear it up a little!
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✪L@K Apr 20, 2020 @ 7:15pm 
No, they make it so that ranked match never happened so it doesnt matter if you win or lose
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Fierais Apr 20, 2020 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by ✪L@K:
No, they make it so that ranked match never happened so it doesnt matter if you win or lose
Still punishing you for winning against a hacker, And the people that lost gain there elo back how is that fair
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✪L@K Apr 20, 2020 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by Fierais:
Originally posted by ✪L@K:
No, they make it so that ranked match never happened so it doesnt matter if you win or lose
Still punishing you for winning against a hacker, And the people that lost gain there elo back how is that fair


Originally posted by Fierais:
Originally posted by ✪L@K:
No, they make it so that ranked match never happened so it doesnt matter if you win or lose
Still punishing you for winning against a hacker, And the people that lost gain there elo back how is that fair
It is, just think that the match never happened
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catharsis Apr 20, 2020 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Fierais:
Originally posted by ✪L@K:
No, they make it so that ranked match never happened so it doesnt matter if you win or lose
Still punishing you for winning against a hacker, And the people that lost gain there elo back how is that fair

No that’s not how that works, the only time you get MMR back is when you lose against a cheater. The system is in place to pretend the match never happened.
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✪L@K Apr 20, 2020 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by circle.:
Originally posted by Fierais:
Still punishing you for winning against a hacker, And the people that lost gain there elo back how is that fair

No that’s not how that works, the only time you get MMR back is when you lose against a cheater. The system is in place to pretend the match never happened.
exactly
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UbiMorning Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Fierais:
Winning against a hacker shouldnt be a punishment to your elo? Tell me how that makes sense ubisoft
We explained this a bit in our Dev Blog.[www.ubisoft.com]
The whole point, as the others have mentioned, is the system revokes any MMR that was impacted as if that match never existed. The system takes back any MMR you won while playing with a cheater, and gives back any MMR you lost while playing against a cheater. We mentioned testing a one-sided MMR Rollback system and found that it could potentially inflate MMR, which we want to avoid.
However, we have been taking note of people getting upset when they lose MMR for overcoming a cheater. Hope this helps clear it up a little!
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Fierais Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by UbiMorning:
Originally posted by Fierais:
Winning against a hacker shouldnt be a punishment to your elo? Tell me how that makes sense ubisoft
We explained this a bit in our Dev Blog.[www.ubisoft.com]
The whole point, as the others have mentioned, is the system revokes any MMR that was impacted as if that match never existed. The system takes back any MMR you won while playing with a cheater, and gives back any MMR you lost while playing against a cheater. We mentioned testing a one-sided MMR Rollback system and found that it could potentially inflate MMR, which we want to avoid.
However, we have been taking note of people getting upset when they lose MMR for overcoming a cheater. Hope this helps clear it up a little!
Ok, Just it kind of upsets me when i win against a cheater and then lose my elo because they decided to cheat and ruin it for me, I just feel like i should get double the MMR if i face a cheater and beat them, Idk how they were cheating but yea.
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strange juice man Apr 21, 2020 @ 1:10pm 
:steammocking:
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keithw283 Dec 28, 2020 @ 3:15pm 
Yeah we beat an obvious cheater and lost the mmr that we gained which was 98 btw so that was cool. It makes absolutely zero sense which is why it makes perfect sense with it being ubi. Hey you beat a guy that was cheating? Congrats we are going to take away the MMR you just got and make you waste your time. Oh btw if you quit because you are playing a cheater you are going to lose your mmr
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