Tachanka's MG breaks through shields

[armold]

I think Tachanka's machine gun should be able to break through all riot shields except Montagne's shield when it is in special mode. This would definitely make Tachanka far more feasible and give Montagne more reason to use his unique mode when by himself.

[Gekko]

snake eater님이 먼저 게시:

I think Tachanka's machine gun should be able to break through all riot shields except Montagne's shield when it is in special mode. This would definitely make Tachanka far more feasible and give Montagne more reason to use his unique mode when by himself.

Agreed, I was so hyped when I saw the operators video that depicts him hammer through concrete walls and everything. His gun has no more stopping power then a normal Carbine...

[Jon M]

Why whould Montagne shield be stronger when extended? If anything, it should be weaker since it gets thinner when the upper and lower parts extend.

Tachanka needs a collision detection patch for his turret placement. That would make him completely viable instead of starting to mess around with damage and other numbers.

[Saboteur]

dunno, they should reduse platform size and installation speed / or just reduce platform size and add shield on that heavy MG.

[armold]

Jon M님이 먼저 게시:

Why whould Montagne shield be stronger when extended? If anything, it should be weaker since it gets thinner when the upper and lower parts extend.

Tachanka needs a collision detection patch for his turret placement. That would make him completely viable instead of starting to mess around with damage and other numbers.

It's not like the games physics are realistic. So what if it gets stronger when deployed? If it were realistic the machine gun would tear through the shields with ease and take down a player with 1 shot to the chest.

[Chad]

snake eater님이 먼저 게시:

Jon M님이 먼저 게시:

Why whould Montagne shield be stronger when extended? If anything, it should be weaker since it gets thinner when the upper and lower parts extend.

Tachanka needs a collision detection patch for his turret placement. That would make him completely viable instead of starting to mess around with damage and other numbers.

It's not like the games physics are realistic. So what if it gets stronger when deployed? If it were realistic the machine gun would tear through the shields with ease and take down a player with 1 shot to the chest.

Yeah maybe if there were firing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 50 cal at the sheild

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THAT AIN'T FALCO님이 먼저 게시:

snake eater님이 먼저 게시:

It's not like the games physics are realistic. So what if it gets stronger when deployed? If it were realistic the machine gun would tear through the shields with ease and take down a player with 1 shot to the chest.

Yeah maybe if there were firing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 50 cal at the sheild

Dude, 7.62×39mm(AK bullets) can go through real shields.

I am more than sure that 7.62×54mmR(Tachanka's bullets) would be able to ♥♥♥♥ over any shield in real life.



The devs really need to buff Tachanka. I literally see no one using him outside of Bronze or Casual.

[armold]

THAT AIN'T FALCO님이 먼저 게시:

snake eater님이 먼저 게시:

It's not like the games physics are realistic. So what if it gets stronger when deployed? If it were realistic the machine gun would tear through the shields with ease and take down a player with 1 shot to the chest.

Yeah maybe if there were firing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 50 cal at the sheild

7.62 would quite easily punch through the shields in game. Even some high velocity 5.56 rifles would be able to punch through them.

[ApexPredator]

I've been saying this since day 1. This would actually make the current worst operator in the game a counter to shield operators. Definitely more realistic as well as more interesting in terms of strategic thinking. Can't believe the devs went all realistic with the damage model and everything and went "here's an impervious shield which nother can shoot through. Enjoy!" and released the game as it is.

[Basil]

Guys shields have a hard enough time already. Dont nerf them more considering nearly everything in this game counters them

[Lion]

Berser King님이 먼저 게시:

THAT AIN'T FALCO님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah maybe if there were firing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 50 cal at the sheild

Dude, 7.62×39mm(AK bullets) can go through real shields.

I am more than sure that 7.62×54mmR(Tachanka's bullets) would be able to ♥♥♥♥ over any shield in real life.



The devs really need to buff Tachanka. I literally see no one using him outside of Bronze or Casual.

You're so wrong on so many levels.
Ballistic Shields with a NIJ IV Level of protection can Easily withstand 7.62x39mm bullets. Infact they can withstand 7.62x39mm AP bullets fired at point blank range.
Ballistic Shields are much more different from Riot Shields. This game doesn't offer riot shields, which are seethrough, and offer a lower level of protection that will stop handguns and SMGS.

[Basil]

Sledge님이 먼저 게시:

ƁƇƤ GamerDudeTaylor님이 먼저 게시:

Guys shields have a hard enough time already. Dont buff them more considering nearly everything in this game counters them

If you mean c4 charges, it takes several seconds for a defender to ready those things, and you can hear them ready it, so a good shield player would just turn and run, since the defender they're facing has c4 out, not a gun, and thus they can run away safely.

If you're talking about people meleeing the shield, you know, you can shoot them before they do that...

just sayin'...

-avid Montagne player here.

Honestly how many times are you killed by c4.

Its hard to shoot at an enemy when hipfiring is just like pissing in the wind.

Aiming leaves your head exposed and most good players know to keep the crosshair on your head

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Non-Lethal Lion님이 먼저 게시:

Berser King님이 먼저 게시:

Dude, 7.62×39mm(AK bullets) can go through real shields.

I am more than sure that 7.62×54mmR(Tachanka's bullets) would be able to ♥♥♥♥ over any shield in real life.



The devs really need to buff Tachanka. I literally see no one using him outside of Bronze or Casual.

You're so wrong on so many levels.
Ballistic Shields with a NIJ IV Level of protection can Easily withstand 7.62x39mm bullets. Infact they can withstand 7.62x39mm AP bullets fired at point blank range.
Ballistic Shields are much more different from Riot Shields. This game doesn't offer riot shields, which are seethrough, and offer a lower level of protection that will stop handguns and SMGS.

Except we aren't talking about the strongest shields.

We are talking about the shields that are light enough to hold mid-air with one arm.

That being said, 7.62x54 is still way stronger than 7.63x39.

[Lion]

Berser King님이 먼저 게시:

Non-Lethal Lion님이 먼저 게시:

You're so wrong on so many levels.
Ballistic Shields with a NIJ IV Level of protection can Easily withstand 7.62x39mm bullets. Infact they can withstand 7.62x39mm AP bullets fired at point blank range.
Ballistic Shields are much more different from Riot Shields. This game doesn't offer riot shields, which are seethrough, and offer a lower level of protection that will stop handguns and SMGS.

Except we aren't talking about the strongest shields.

We are talking about the shields that are light enough to hold mid-air with one arm.

That being said, 7.62x54 is still way stronger than 7.63x39.

That is a shield that can be carried with 1 arm. Its also the reason why ingame shields make so much damn noise when walking around and the character moves super slow. He has a high level'd ballistc shield.
And the 7.62x54 with AP or FMJ is still protected by a NIJ IV Level protection shield. Look it up.

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Non-Lethal Lion님이 먼저 게시:

Berser King님이 먼저 게시:

Except we aren't talking about the strongest shields.

We are talking about the shields that are light enough to hold mid-air with one arm.

That being said, 7.62x54 is still way stronger than 7.63x39.

That is a shield that can be carried with 1 arm. Its also the reason why ingame shields make so much damn noise when walking around and the character moves super slow. He has a high level'd ballistc shield.
And the 7.62x54 with AP or FMJ is still protected by a NIJ IV Level protection shield. Look it up.

Except that specific shield is way smaller than the ones in-game. You are the one who needs to look it up.

Not to mention, Tachanka isn't just using single fire on a rifle. That is a full on rapid fire mounted machine gun.

Last but not least, the glass on that shield is weaker than the shield itself.

[Lion]

Berser King님이 먼저 게시:

Non-Lethal Lion님이 먼저 게시:

That is a shield that can be carried with 1 arm. Its also the reason why ingame shields make so much damn noise when walking around and the character moves super slow. He has a high level'd ballistc shield.
And the 7.62x54 with AP or FMJ is still protected by a NIJ IV Level protection shield. Look it up.

Except that specific shield is way smaller than the ones in-game. You are the one who needs to look it up.

Not to mention, Tachanka isn't just using single fire on a rifle. That is a full on rapid fire mounted machine gun.

the GIGN module is a fully body length NIJ IV Level protection shield with blast shield protection on it... And Tachanka's machinegun needs larger Mags to make him effective. He isn't effective enough to provide covering fire to pin enemies down long enough.