Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Team Kill 2023년 3월 21일 오전 7시 13분
DX11 VS Vulcan
The obvious thing is performance. Vulkan runs better which means more fps but it really is a small amount. Vulkan is supposed to be more finished and constantly updated vs DX11 which is now supposed to be replaced by DX12 (though it seems unstable in most games). DX11 used more gpu for me (it says gpu 6.6 to 6.8 roughly though I still have no clue what that means but higher means more usage I guess) and Vulcan used 3.3-4. Vulcan uses less than 80% of gpu and cpu usage on average with the lowest I saw being around 60% which is not good (and you will see why at the bottom).DX11 is still heavy on my cpu. Here is the main very important issue that puts them apart:
Everything on Vulcan is extremely downscaled and choppy whereas DX11 looks crisp and clean (which explains why the fps is so high and why the usage for both cpu and gpu are so low). It is so bad that, if you were to compare on the same map, same location, same guns, and same graphics, you would think "are my eyes messing with me". Vulcan, even on max settings and 4k, will downscale it and make everything choppy and blurry making it nearly impossible to see far away through things like broken windows and doors.
Everyone says "Dx11 has major performance issues" but it really just uses your settings like you ask it to and vulcan chooses to lower everything just for that extra 50 fps.
All in all, if you have a terrible laptop, use Vulcan. Even with an old pc or old gaming laptop you could use DX11 on medium or low and it would still look way better than Vulcan.
(Before you go commenting saying it is not true for those who use Vulcan and are married to it, go to training and shooting range and check for yourself. The lines on the target look so much more blurry than in DX11)
Hope this helps!
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Team Kill 2023년 3월 22일 오전 7시 49분 
Старик Сантьяго님이 먼저 게시:
HELP me pls ERROR 0xc000009a and codex64.dll
You can see if windows firewall is blocking siege or restart your pc. You can also just uninstall and reinstall the game. I've never had that error.
Digital 2023년 3월 22일 오후 8시 14분 
Team Kill님이 먼저 게시:
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I used Vulcan for some time, before accidentally booting up in DX, and the performance blew Vulcan out the water.

I thought Vulcan was mainly for AMD gear though and didn't really impact Nvidia stuff much?
Vulcan is more for old or cheap pcs. For example, anyone with a 2080 or a 3070 would benefit from it a lot. 1080s could play using vulcan. Amd in general. DX11 is supposed to run better on nvidia because they always advertise "supports dx11 and dx12" or whatever. I do not know if it is a compatibility issue with 4000 series gpus or what but it seems like Vulcan uses so much less resources than it should be using and it doesn't ever want to do the quality you have it set to.


Bit confusing then, I still use a 1070, and Vulcan was great back when it was all the rave when DOOM was about, but shortly after that my performance dipped, and DX took the lead.
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Team Kill 2023년 3월 22일 오후 9시 49분 
Digital님이 먼저 게시:
Team Kill님이 먼저 게시:
Vulcan is more for old or cheap pcs. For example, anyone with a 2080 or a 3070 would benefit from it a lot. 1080s could play using vulcan. Amd in general. DX11 is supposed to run better on nvidia because they always advertise "supports dx11 and dx12" or whatever. I do not know if it is a compatibility issue with 4000 series gpus or what but it seems like Vulcan uses so much less resources than it should be using and it doesn't ever want to do the quality you have it set to.


Bit confusing then, I still use a 1070, and Vulcan was great back when it was all the rave when DOOM was about, but shortly after that my performance dipped, and DX took the lead.
Vulcan is supposed to be the most updated between the 2 but DX gets BIG updates with a lot of performance increases. DX11 is either abandoned or getting minor adjustments now because some games like Insurgency Sandstorm have crashes and other bugs because it uses DX11. Siege is lucky imo. DX12 is supposed to be more common but it is terrible on old games and requires a hefty update for any old game to run it. Even then, it is very very 4000 series friendly and less friendly to any AMD card and anything not a 4000 series gpu. Is is extremely dumb that they first did not fix DX11 so it is near perfect on all games and they decided to make DX12 even though it is no where near ready for any gpu or game. That is why some newer games with DX12 run poorly. Vulcan should still be getting updates because they refuse to throw it away for a new version, but it seems like it hasn't gotten anything in a while.
Nud3lRick 2023년 3월 23일 오전 12시 57분 
Please post pictures of your graphics settings, then we can possibly help you, but please stop writing so much nonsense about APIs.
Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오전 1시 21분 
Nud3lRick님이 먼저 게시:
Please post pictures of your graphics settings, then we can possibly help you, but please stop writing so much nonsense about APIs.
Stop getting mad about someone having a different experience on vulkan than you. This is a discussion and we are discussing things. If you come here saying I am wrong with no evidence, please go to reddit and complain elsewhere.
Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오전 1시 22분 
Nud3lRick님이 먼저 게시:
Please post pictures of your graphics settings, then we can possibly help you, but please stop writing so much nonsense about APIs.
I never asked for help either nor would I want yours and no one else has offered because they know that this is informational and a discussion. So go away reddit user.
Nud3lRick 2023년 3월 23일 오전 1시 55분 
You made a claim that was easy to refute with screenshots? xD
How can it be informative without any proof from your side?
I didn't realise you weren't looking for help. Then I won't write anything more about it.
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Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오전 6시 35분 
Nud3lRick님이 먼저 게시:
You made a claim that was easy to refute with screenshots? xD
How can it be informative without any proof from your side?
I didn't realise you weren't looking for help. Then I won't write anything more about it.
You cannot add screenshots. You'd have to upload them to a website and from what it looks like, you cannot send urls. At least, for yours, I couldn't open them. You can always look up "Vulcan has a blurry image and dx11 is fine on siege" and you'll find people complaining and then saying they switched to vulcan and it was fine. Most people say it is just the reticle.
Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오전 6시 57분 
Nud3lRick님이 먼저 게시:
You made a claim that was easy to refute with screenshots? xD
How can it be informative without any proof from your side?
I didn't realise you weren't looking for help. Then I won't write anything more about it.
https://imgur.com/a/Odo256Y
top half is DX11
bottom half is Vulcan
Same settings
The reticle on Vulcan is blurry and the opacity seems much different even though they have the least amount of opacity I could possible do and they are the exact same color. Idk if you can zoom in on imgur, but you can see it is very obviously different and DX11 looks better with that.
The 2nd thing is the textures for the wires on the top right when zoomed out and the grey pipes on the left side of the target. The wires look more firm on DX11 even though they are far away and on Vulcan they look pixelated. Same with the 2 pipes on the left side. Even the target itself, when zoomed in, the it looks very pixelated on Vulcan. This means the textures are not loaded in the exact same.
What I am saying is that, imagine you are aiming at someone from bottom of middle coastline to the top of the roof and you are looking through that bottom window next to the kitchen. You look for a head and what do you see? Pixels. On DX11, you can see their head's shape and hair color instead of just pixels. This is a disadvantage in my eyes, but if you are fine with pixels, good on you.
Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오전 7시 04분 
Nud3lRick님이 먼저 게시:
You made a claim that was easy to refute with screenshots? xD
How can it be informative without any proof from your side?
I didn't realise you weren't looking for help. Then I won't write anything more about it.
Now, with the screenshots, if you can say there is no difference, I know you either do not have a 4k monitor and everything is always pixelated because that is how I see 1080p and 1440p now, or you are not looking very hard which means you rarely spawn peak or aim towards the roof of a building. You also cannot say that 1080p doesn't look pixelated because, like with a curved monitor, 4k changes how you look at different resolutions and causes you to literally only see the pixels rather than the image itself. A curved monitor makes it impossible to use a flat monitor because it looks like the screen is coming outwards which sucks because I can no longer get a large flat 8k monitor. I am not trying to sound rude, but there is 100% a difference between the 2. Also, if you were to be right up on a painting or a textured wall, you would also notice that the wall or painting looks pixelated and not very detailed than what it actually looks like in DX11.
PurdyKillz 2023년 3월 23일 오후 7시 03분 
Vulcan stutters for me most likely because my CPU but I have a good GPU so dx11 actually runs more atable for me IDC what others say. Vulkan my fps is higher but it stutters like a MFer. I much rather dx11 with less frames and no stutters
Team Kill 2023년 3월 23일 오후 7시 22분 
PurdyKillz님이 먼저 게시:
Vulcan stutters for me most likely because my CPU but I have a good GPU so dx11 actually runs more atable for me IDC what others say. Vulkan my fps is higher but it stutters like a MFer. I much rather dx11 with less frames and no stutters
I have a 13900k and Vulcan stutters regardless. It is a known bug that still hasn't been fixed.
PREDATOR-V 2023년 3월 25일 오전 5시 12분 
Vulkan makes my fps tank and loads of stutters for some reason.
smox 2023년 3월 25일 오후 3시 51분 
I just tested both. I have capped my FPS to 144 and run the game with an AMD ryzen 3700x and an rtx 2080s. Both DX and Vulkan gave me stable 144fps and ~120fps (1% low).
With DX i have some light Sky flickering but 5ms. With Vulkan no flickering but 10ms. I dont think 5ms difference make me a pro so i stay with Vulkan.
De Kapitan 2023년 9월 6일 오전 6시 02분 
I 100% agree with the author of this post. Vulkan is bad.

My setting are all off or low, except for textures and shadows on meduim. 1080p, 16:10, 144hz.

My eyes immediately hurt when I start vulkan, and I can clearly notice that anti aliasing (off) is worse on vulkan, where in DX it is not as bad.

I play on the ubisoft connect app.
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