SMG-11 we all know what should happen.

[CutACrow]

Alot of people compain about it but the simple solution is to remove the ability to attach an acog on it. it would remain as a good weapon just not a pocket sniper...

[holy-death]

I am hoping that if (when?) they change SMG-11 they will also consider redesigning Smoke's gadget a bit (just like they did with a few other operators) to make him more potent trap-operator. Because that SMG-11 with ACOG is probably the one and only reason most people pick up Smoke, not his gadget.

[Tushonk]

There's nothing wrong with smg11
If you want to compare it to Glaz then don't,everything outsnipe Glaz.

[FoxHound]

Agree with this, at least the ACOG should be removed from the SMG-11, when u see players using it as there primary weapon, u know something is wrong with this gun.

[Try.Hardin]

FoxHound eredeti hozzászólása:

Agree with this, at least the ACOG should be removed from the SMG-11, when u see players using it as there primary weapon, u know something is wrong with this gun.

because smoke doesn't have good primary weapon, you have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pump-action shotgun and more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fmg-9 with low fire rate and bad sights.

[Kjall]

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

FoxHound eredeti hozzászólása:

Agree with this, at least the ACOG should be removed from the SMG-11, when u see players using it as there primary weapon, u know something is wrong with this gun.

because smoke doesn't have good primary weapon, you have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pump-action shotgun and more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fmg-9 with low fire rate and bad sights.

FMG-9 is like mp5 without an acog, it's like saying literally all defense weapons are sh*t

[feelmyfullclip]

smg-11 is way to accurate...

should be even less accurate , less controllable(more horizontal recoil)... not much vertical recoil it appears to be ok on that side.

Remove acog scope.

30 rounds mag and make it a primary.

[Try.Hardin]

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

because smoke doesn't have good primary weapon, you have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ pump-action shotgun and more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fmg-9 with low fire rate and bad sights.

FMG-9 is like mp5 without an acog, it's like saying literally all defense weapons are sh*t

Lol wut? Mp5 has much better recoil, check the pattern. And okay let's forget about. Then give fmg-9 acog, nobody won't use mp5 if this will be without acog or holo

[Kjall]

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

FMG-9 is like mp5 without an acog, it's like saying literally all defense weapons are sh*t

Lol wut? Mp5 has much better recoil, check the pattern. And okay let's forget about. Then give fmg-9 acog, nobody won't use mp5 if this will be without acog or holo

That's the thing, you don't want defenders to be TOO powerful, if you give a 2 armor operator an acog for an already versitile gun+ability to block off areas+tools to get around the map you will have one hell of an offensive roamer

[Tushonk]

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

Lol wut? Mp5 has much better recoil, check the pattern. And okay let's forget about. Then give fmg-9 acog, nobody won't use mp5 if this will be without acog or holo

That's the thing, you don't want defenders to be TOO powerful, if you give a 2 armor operator an acog for an already versitile gun+ability to block off areas+tools to get around the map you will have one hell of an offensive roamer

Tbh Smoke's gas is pretty bad.

[Kjall]

Thureon eredeti hozzászólása:

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

That's the thing, you don't want defenders to be TOO powerful, if you give a 2 armor operator an acog for an already versitile gun+ability to block off areas+tools to get around the map you will have one hell of an offensive roamer

Tbh Smoke's gas is pretty bad.

Still disorients you when going through it and damages you, not a risk you would normally take.

[Try.Hardin]

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

Lol wut? Mp5 has much better recoil, check the pattern. And okay let's forget about. Then give fmg-9 acog, nobody won't use mp5 if this will be without acog or holo

That's the thing, you don't want defenders to be TOO powerful, if you give a 2 armor operator an acog for an already versitile gun+ability to block off areas+tools to get around the map you will have one hell of an offensive roamer

smoke doesn't have vesitile gun, smg-11 good only in 1v1 mid-far distance battles, in close combats it isn't good at all (because of acog) and it has very low capacity, so smg-11 not even close to vesitile gun and of course it isn't op.

[Tushonk]

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

Thureon eredeti hozzászólása:

Tbh Smoke's gas is pretty bad.

Still disorients you when going through it and damages you, not a risk you would normally take.

It feels like the gas has no damage at all. If a Smoke activate the gas feel free to rush through it because it's ~30 hp that you lose and surprise him.

[Kjall]

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

That's the thing, you don't want defenders to be TOO powerful, if you give a 2 armor operator an acog for an already versitile gun+ability to block off areas+tools to get around the map you will have one hell of an offensive roamer

smoke doesn't have vesitile gun, smg-11 good only in 1v1 mid-far distance battles, in close combats it isn't good at all (because of acog) and it has very low capacity, so smg-11 not even close to vesitile gun and of course it isn't op.

You're still using it over your primary and it's still a deathray and the best tap gun in the game.

[AKbrandonMC]

The smg-11 + acod is the only redeming quality of smoke. he is one of the least picked ops as it is, don't nerf him more.

[TUNA!]

Kjall eredeti hozzászólása:

Kawaii Desu eredeti hozzászólása:

smoke doesn't have vesitile gun, smg-11 good only in 1v1 mid-far distance battles, in close combats it isn't good at all (because of acog) and it has very low capacity, so smg-11 not even close to vesitile gun and of course it isn't op.

You're still using it over your primary and it's still a deathray and the best tap gun in the game.

The P90 is good enough to challenge the SMG-11 for the best tap gun in the game.

Since the SMG-11 has a major weakness in regards to it's magazine size. With a Rate of Fire (ROF) of 1270 Rounds Per Minute (RPM) and a very small magazine size of 16+1 and very small maximum ammuntion of 48 bullets (≈ 2.8 magazines). You will run out of ammo very fast and you must be accurate and have good burst control as even small bursts can spend the entire magazine.

While the P90 has a a high ROF at 970 RPM while also having a very large magazine size of 50+1 and a normal maximum ammunition of 150. It too has an ACOG, and has clean iron sites making it good in Close Quarters Battles, while also having lots of barrel attachments and is on two good Operators (Doc and Rook).

Best one could say is the P90 and SMG-11 are equal high teir weapons with their own benfits and draw backs and the P90 is best for non-pros since you don't have be as accurate, and the SMG-11 is best for pros since to use it ideally you need a good aim and burst control.