Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

So we just ignoring the massive cheater wave?
Of the past 4 days, and about 60 matches, I am yet to play a match without someone on my or the opposing team that isn't blatantly cheating. It's time to switch anti-cheats, BattleEye clearly can't keep up with the times. Not to mention the sheer number of reports these accounts are getting and yet here they still are.
Last edited by Dollar tree Confucius; Jan 26, 2022 @ 12:37am
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UbiYubble Jan 26, 2022 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
Of the past 4 days, and about 60 matches, I am yet to play a match without someone on my or the opposing team that isn't blatantly cheating. It's time to switch anti-cheats, BattleEye clearly can't keep up with the times. Not to mention the sheer number of reports these accounts are getting and yet here they still are.


Hey there.

Cheaters frustrate us just as much they do our players. We've been committed to providing more insight into our fight against cheaters, starting with the Anti-Cheat blog[www.ubisoft.com] we put out a few weeks back, as well as providing more frequent updates regarding cheating starting on February 10th, and continuing to provide one every 1.5 months.

In the meantime, please continue to provide clips and information to our Support team about the cheaters you encounter in your matches so they can get investigated.
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
In the meantime, please continue to provide clips and information to our Support team about the cheaters you encounter in your matches so they can get investigated.
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.
Last edited by Dollar tree Confucius; Jan 27, 2022 @ 5:32am
lakupupu Jan 27, 2022 @ 5:48am 
also just started spotting tons more suspicious players, but no overt ones so far
there was one match 2 days ago where the enemies had a guy with impossible info and sus prefires and he left midmatch
but point stands, lot more sus players recently
Last edited by lakupupu; Jan 27, 2022 @ 5:53am
processor.dev1l Jan 27, 2022 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
In the meantime, please continue to provide clips and information to our Support team about the cheaters you encounter in your matches so they can get investigated.
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.

Wait, do you really meet that many cheaters? Which game mode?
Originally posted by processor.dev1l:
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.

Wait, do you really meet that many cheaters? Which game mode?
I imagine it'll vary which region you play in, but the OCE/Aus servers are unplayable at the moment. I pretty much have only played casual for the past two-ish years because cheaters have always had a noticible impact on ranked to the point where you rank was effectively random - it just came down to which team had the better cheater. BattleEye used to be able to handle them in a reasonable amount of time, and MMR rollbacks happened every time you logged in. I've been told by a few other regular casual players I often see about that some new cheat cropped up a few weeks ago. I know the word 'literally' has lost all meaning these days, but literally every match has a cheater at the moment. I assume it'll slow down in the coming weeks as all the accounts become high enough to play ranked, of which it'll become someone else's problem. One interesting thing I have noticed however, is that the significant majority of players that use the cheats seem to be really new to the game - some appear to be playing it for the first time. Zero game sense, combined with a lack of map knowledge and game mechanics mean that you can totally win a match against most of them, but it's really jarring to watch a teammate who clearly has wall cheats stumble around like a bot and try and shoot people through, like, two unbreachable walls.
TLDR; All are in casual so far, but it's only a matter of time until they migrate to ranked.

Edit: Heres just an example from the other day - when the cheaters first started. I don't bother clipping it anymore because I don't have the disk space to clip every match. https://youtu.be/X6ap-paauVU
During the match I just palmed it off as some really high level headphones and a sweat lord in casual - but rewatching it clearly shows they have a wall cheat. As you can imagine, it feels like watching a silver in their first matches.
Since there was so many cheaters in casual, I switched to playing ranked yesterday but lo and behold when i logged in today: https://imgur.com/a/UEwDjLE
Again, I couldn't care less about rank and just use it to have fun and talk with people, but it is quite literally unplayable. Three games worth of MMR. I only played three. No-one on my team was the same in any of the games. Three different people on my team cheating. Not to mention that every match today had the same type of cheat. People are still getting banned - but it's clearly a manual ban and not a BattleEye ban which is potentially worse. That means that the only reason people with this cheat are getting banned is because they are being obvious about it - not that it's detectable.
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Nomad Jan 27, 2022 @ 7:56pm 
watching replay really shows whether they were definitely cheating. I play mainly casual and have my fair share of sweat lords but you can tell the difference.
Just in case you guys didn't believe me - https://imgur.com/a/NnpgL13
I've come across a lot of different types of cheats in the last week or two, so this'll only be the players with one type of cheat - there will be a lot more to come in the next ban waves.
I'm glad they are getting banned, but there is wayyyyyyy too many alleys of access for players the exploit the game. It's time for a new anticheat.
Bear your Bears Jan 31, 2022 @ 11:06pm 
Yea, it's near impossible to play this game anymore. Even worse is that even when you report cheaters the game just assumes you're an idiot and puts you right back into a match with them next game.

As with many other devs right now, they think the answer is "kernel level access" to detect hacks. But all that does is give hackers kernel level access to your computer. There is no way that kind of anti cheat will work, which hackers have PROVEN it doesn't work, but even so that's where it's going. Which to me, will mean never touching this game again because it'll turn into a larger security threat than looking at porn on indian websites.

The answer is algorithmic learning to detect hacking post match. This algorithm can then be applied to in progress games as it learns. The replay system is kinda garbo, but should still be viable enough to train the algorithm. Imagine an anti cheat that doesn't ask what else is running on your computer, but instead asks how you snapped to a single particular pixel in 2 frames 10 kills in a row. An anti cheat that wonders why you never droned but still pre-fired a particular corner without having any information on a player being there. An anti cheat that will send F-22s to intercept players cosplaying as an AC-130.

But instead we get an anti hack that can't even recognize that the dude who just knifed his own team AND the enemy team .5 seconds after the match started is hacking. Cool job ubi.
R3vox Jan 31, 2022 @ 11:48pm 
They need their resources to add more visual content..
I think they are doing a great job banning cheaters, but unfortunately these kids keep coming back with new accounts...
Big Boss Feb 1, 2022 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
In the meantime, please continue to provide clips and information to our Support team about the cheaters you encounter in your matches so they can get investigated.
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.
I think if you're encountering that many people you think are cheating you need to reexamine what you're using to determine who is cheating. Also if you're really that upset about it and sure they're all cheating try faceit lobbies instead
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.
I think if you're encountering that many people you think are cheating you need to reexamine what you're using to determine who is cheating. Also if you're really that upset about it and sure they're all cheating try faceit lobbies instead
I'm not sure if you missed this, but it's not me just crying wolf - https://m.imgur.com/a/NnpgL13. There are cheaters in every game. And faceit doesn't even exist in my region apparently. Not to mention there is no real integration with siege - it's just custom games.
Last edited by Dollar tree Confucius; Feb 1, 2022 @ 6:19pm
NotAPanda Feb 2, 2022 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by Dollar tree Confucius:
I appreciate the response, but I hope you can understand my frustration to even do that - I don't want - rather - shouldn't have to submit a new report for every match I play in a session. There is zero exaggeration when I mention that not a single game this week has been without cheaters. I don't want to have to open 10 individual tickets to support after playing 10 matches over an hour and a half.
I think if you're encountering that many people you think are cheating you need to reexamine what you're using to determine who is cheating. Also if you're really that upset about it and sure they're all cheating try faceit lobbies instead

Here are some hard facts for you. Ubisoft has officially said 120 000 hackers were banned in a year. On average they ban 10 000 accounts / month. Considering we have 100 000 players / month at best or at the moment 60 000 -70 000 at best, this means every single match has an average of 1 hacker. Or with todays numbers around 2-3 players on each match is using a cheat.

Please note that these are hackers who have been caught so the real number is most likely higher since there are hacks that have not been detected and hackers who use them in a way that they are not easily detected other than other players and even then most idiots (like you) will just cry "git gud" or some other crap when its clear to any one of us who have played FPS games long period of time. In my case that would be over 20 years.

Back in the days of CS 1.5 and CS 1.6 even I use to try hacks on private servers. The hack even detected other cheaters which opened my eyes how many users actually were and are using cheats to boost their gameplay.

TL;DR every single match has on average 1-3 hackers. Believe it or not, but the numbers don't lie.
Last edited by NotAPanda; Feb 2, 2022 @ 3:37am
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