Please do not remove Nokks muffled sound

[Baubles]

It is pointless to buff Nokk and then nerf her in the same patch. We are not talking about a under performing operator that needs a little push.

She needs about as much as she can get, she might still not even be used after the buff to ignoring proximity gadgets. Not to mention the whole stealth part is kind of her thing, I'd rather lose the upcoming buff and keep the muffle if it came down to it.

[Thesaintdog]

shes at the same level as now if they DO remove it for ME. (Don't know what others think)

[maxkidd]

Originally posted by Henchman:

It is pointless to buff Nokk and then nerf her in the same patch. We are not talking about a under performing operator that needs a little push.

She needs about as much as she can get, she might still not even be used after the buff to ignoring proximity gadgets. Not to mention the whole stealth part is kind of her thing, I'd rather lose the upcoming buff and keep the muffle if it came down to it.

so lose stealth to anyone of the multitude of gadgets that are proxy based vs moving slower? I don't know about that chief.

[maxkidd]

Originally posted by Henchman:

Originally posted by Maxkidd:

so lose stealth to anyone of the multitude of gadgets that are proxy based vs moving slower? I don't know about that chief.

It doesn't matter if those gadgets don't detect you if you're clunking around as a 2 armor that people can hear from a room away.

crouch walk? id rather make a bot mroe noise then get hit by a ela mine and ruin the play

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by Maxkidd:

Originally posted by Henchman:

It doesn't matter if those gadgets don't detect you if you're clunking around as a 2 armor that people can hear from a room away.

crouch walk? id rather make a bot mroe noise then get hit by a ela mine and ruin the play

Issue is that crouch walking is very slow making you cover almost no real range if you are stuck crouch walking with the gadget active time

[Star Step]

Information is huge in this game. Nokk being able to bypass gadgets and clear her image on cameras is a better synergy than tip toeing and offsetting a sensor or ela's mine. With the amount of defense ops that have proximity devices at their disposal, Nokk's ability will shine more; being able to infiltrate without setting off alarms is nearly invaluable.
Also, crouch walk more. Stop sprinting or stand walking unless you have to.

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by Superior Greens:

Information is huge in this game. Nokk being able to bypass gadgets and clear her image on cameras is a better synergy than tip toeing and offsetting a sensor or ela's mine. With the amount of defense ops that have proximity devices at their disposal, Nokk's ability will shine more; being able to infiltrate without setting off alarms is nearly invaluable.
Also, crouch walk more. Stop sprinting or stand walking unless you have to.

I just think that locking people to only crouch walking will drasticly decrease the effective range you will cover making the buff be irrelevant, do you only use the before entering doors or do you also not use to cover the corridors to reach that point?

[Star Step]

Originally posted by Henchman:

Originally posted by Superior Greens:

Information is huge in this game. Nokk being able to bypass gadgets and clear her image on cameras is a better synergy than tip toeing and offsetting a sensor or ela's mine. With the amount of defense ops that have proximity devices at their disposal, Nokk's ability will shine more; being able to infiltrate without setting off alarms is nearly invaluable.
Also, crouch walk more. Stop sprinting or stand walking unless you have to.

Except that it doesn't affect frost mats, kapkans, lesions. Valkyrie and Maestro cams have the vigil border effect for Nokk. So we are trading covering much more distance silently in exchange for ignoring 2 operators (Ela and Melusi) and the proximity alarm.

Frost mats and kap traps are easy to spot and sometimes predictable. Use your drone and they shouldn't be a hassle at all. Lesion's gu mines are also counterable as long as you use your drone to spot them (as they're usually just sitting on the ground). Scout around the OBJ or your desired path of navigation. You may have Nokk's ability, but we are given drones for a reason.
The border is there, but it would be completely OP to not have the border. Main advantage is the enemy not knowing exactly where you are.

I can not stress this enough, but; use your drone. Always, always, always. Yes, you have Nokks ability - but drones are an operators best friend. All traps and proximity devices can be avoided as long as you are using your given devices as intended. Even more so with Nokks ability; as proximity sensors and ela's mines are nearly impossible to take out based on their positioning.

All this is assuming you are playing solo and can't rely on your teammates for information.

Of course, everything is still in the testing phase so we don't exactly know how she will be built. But knowing ubisoft, they usually commit to what they're planning.

[Star Step]

Originally posted by Now in full color:

Originally posted by Superior Greens:

Information is huge in this game. Nokk being able to bypass gadgets and clear her image on cameras is a better synergy than tip toeing and offsetting a sensor or ela's mine. With the amount of defense ops that have proximity devices at their disposal, Nokk's ability will shine more; being able to infiltrate without setting off alarms is nearly invaluable.
Also, crouch walk more. Stop sprinting or stand walking unless you have to.

I just think that locking people to only crouch walking will drasticly decrease the effective range you will cover making the buff be irrelevant, do you only use the before entering doors or do you also not use to cover the corridors to reach that point?

Based on what we know for now, using the drone to scout around should help you manage Nokks ability (if you can't rely on your teammates for information). If Nokk was to keep her muffled foot steps, she'd just be the next Ash and rush in OBJ with the extra given advantages .

[maxkidd]

Originally posted by Superior Greens:

Originally posted by Now in full color:

I just think that locking people to only crouch walking will drasticly decrease the effective range you will cover making the buff be irrelevant, do you only use the before entering doors or do you also not use to cover the corridors to reach that point?

Based on what we know for now, using the drone to scout around should help you manage Nokks ability (if you can't rely on your teammates for information). If Nokk was to keep her muffled foot steps, she'd just be the next Ash and rush in OBJ with the extra given advantages .

this , if you are worried about something like a frost or kapkan trap then you are not moving at a speed that the muffle is effective. Nokk should be moving slow, ambushing enemies and while the muffle was certainly nice id rather not hit a ela mine or banshee. The audio from slow movement will go far more unnoticed by defenders. If you think the noise your making is alerting a defender then i think you should have approached it differently maybe back off to a different route.

[Bing Chilling]

not personally a Nokk main
but she was silent when crouched.
i think the complete removal was a little much
she was to quiet, you could not hear her at all before

[Amogus]

Why is Nokk a 2 armor anyways? If she was a 3 speed with the new proximity gadget change, she would actually be making some steps in the right direction. She could actually cover some decent ground, would not be as loud due to lower armor, and would be able to sneak past proximity gadgets.

Or just implement a new feature where Nokk moves at 3 speed only when crouching.

[maxkidd]

Originally posted by What is a "Neutral Item"?:

Why is Nokk a 2 armor anyways? If she was a 3 speed with the new proximity gadget change, she would actually be making some steps in the right direction. She could actually cover some decent ground, would not be as loud due to lower armor, and would be able to sneak past proximity gadgets.

Or just implement a new feature where Nokk moves at 3 speed only when crouching.

I think your right on the 3 speed 1 armor makes more sense for a stealth like cav. Her kit isnt designed for a fair engagement so why the extra armor?

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by What is a "Neutral Item"?:

Why is Nokk a 2 armor anyways? If she was a 3 speed with the new proximity gadget change, she would actually be making some steps in the right direction. She could actually cover some decent ground, would not be as loud due to lower armor, and would be able to sneak past proximity gadgets.

Or just implement a new feature where Nokk moves at 3 speed only when crouching.

Because they also designed warden at that season, they clearly didn't know what they were doing, heck warden was 3 armor on release because he was designed to stand still and hold angles with his glasses but they at the same time gave him one of the worst SMGs you could pair up for that kind of gunfight.

They probably didn't want her to known as literally "caveira on attack" so they took a step back and made her 2 speed

[Bing Chilling]

Originally posted by Now in full color:

Originally posted by What is a "Neutral Item"?:

Why is Nokk a 2 armor anyways? If she was a 3 speed with the new proximity gadget change, she would actually be making some steps in the right direction. She could actually cover some decent ground, would not be as loud due to lower armor, and would be able to sneak past proximity gadgets.

Or just implement a new feature where Nokk moves at 3 speed only when crouching.

Because they also designed warden at that season, they clearly didn't know what they were doing, heck warden was 3 armor on release because he was designed to stand still and hold angles with his glasses but they at the same time gave him one of the worst SMGs you could pair up for that kind of gunfight.

They probably didn't want her to known as literally "caveira on attack" so they took a step back and made her 2 speed

i always hear that people say the MPX is terrible
but like it has less recoil then the UMP and 830 firerate
not as good as the T-5,mp7,mx4storm or p10 Roni
but i don't really get why everyone calls it terrible
from my experience it's like the easiest gun to control in the entire game
on warden using it with a 1.5x is actually insane.

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by 7-Eleven Attendant:

Originally posted by Now in full color:

Because they also designed warden at that season, they clearly didn't know what they were doing, heck warden was 3 armor on release because he was designed to stand still and hold angles with his glasses but they at the same time gave him one of the worst SMGs you could pair up for that kind of gunfight.

They probably didn't want her to known as literally "caveira on attack" so they took a step back and made her 2 speed

i always hear that people say the MPX is terrible
but like it has less recoil then the UMP and 830 firerate
not as good as the T-5,mp7,mx4storm or p10 Roni
but i don't really get why everyone calls it terrible
from my experience it's like the easiest gun to control in the entire game
on warden using it with a 1.5x is actually insane.

Because it's really really bad damage, yes it has decent rof and good control but so does 80% of the SMGs, it works well with valk because her cams can give her intel to give an extra edge so the low recoil helps, for someone like warden that requires that the gadget won't be used most of the time then there's nothing give him that much advantage