Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

𝕞arrr Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:12pm
kali feels more broken?
since the last update
Last edited by 𝕞arrr; Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:16pm
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𝕞arrr Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:24pm 
https://youtu.be/n8LvXnQDo8U nvm just saw that vid
catharsis Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:25pm 
Yup. Not only is her sniper significantly worse due to the supposed "buff" that was actually a significant nerf, but there is a bug with it involving incorrect damage values done to enemies at various ranges. It's baffling that she was put was put out in this state, and the changes need to be reverted.
Igotdild4u Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:55pm 
I totally get why they did it, but it really just made her feel weaker imo.
Copy & Cat Feb 5, 2021 @ 1:03pm 
It's change made in vacuum that takes no consideration any aspect of the entire game other than her gun
Last edited by Copy & Cat; Feb 5, 2021 @ 1:08pm
𝕞arrr Feb 5, 2021 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Too many masks:
It's change made in vacuum that takes no consideration any aspect of the entire game other than her gun
when bosg slug is stronger then a 300 magnum mh.... sadisoft
Laati Feb 5, 2021 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by Igotdild4u:
I totally get why they did it, but it really just made her feel weaker imo.
Not just feel. She is weaker.

Honestly, what would fix it is, along with the instant DBNO capabilties, she had... Impact Nades. Although it makes 0 sense for a sniper to have those. Let's be fair here, it would be useful to yeet one on a crawling enemy.

Or just make them bleed out much faster since... you got ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shot by a 300 magnum.
UbiYubble Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:04pm 
Hey everyone. We're making note of all feedback on Kali and shipping it off to the devs. So by all means, keep it coming.
Last edited by UbiYubble; Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:15pm
Laati Feb 5, 2021 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Hey everyone. We're making note of all feedback on Kali and shipping it off to the devs. So by all means, keep it coming.
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.
Copy & Cat Feb 5, 2021 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Laati:
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Hey everyone. We're making note of all feedback on Kali and shipping it off to the devs. So by all means, keep it coming.
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.
Your mistake was assuming they actually cared about feedback
TwisterCat Feb 5, 2021 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Too many masks:
Originally posted by Laati:
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.
Your mistake was assuming they actually cared about feedback
Ahahahaha ahaha ha........... It's real fun not being an "influencer" that has complete control over developer's actions
UbiYubble Feb 5, 2021 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by Laati:
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Hey everyone. We're making note of all feedback on Kali and shipping it off to the devs. So by all means, keep it coming.
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.

I can't fully answer that since I'm not on the dev/balancing teams, but community feedback is definitely taken into account.
Last edited by UbiYubble; Feb 5, 2021 @ 6:41pm
•.Mercury.• Feb 5, 2021 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Originally posted by Laati:
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.
community feedback is definitely taken into account.
Considering 90% of the feedback (at least on this forum) has been negative since before the update went through its very confusing as to why the update did go through unless community feedback isnt all that valued.
Copy & Cat Feb 5, 2021 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Incend:
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
community feedback is definitely taken into account.
Considering 90% of the feedback (at least on this forum) has been negative since before the update went through its very confusing as to why the update did go through unless community feedback isnt all that valued.
Only times i remember people feedback being listened was when they were trending on twitter by calling out ubisoft by wanting to redesign maps to make the game chinese approved and voice chat because it was pretty much censorship.

They treat a paper cut by cutting off your arm, someone's frustated in gameplay? make the character useless. Is the pro league bothered by the meta? make everything just about them. Someone gave reasonable feedback? if they are being reasonable then it's not something to worry about so better ignore it.

The changes to toxicity is a good example of it, people say no-no words got instantly banned to the point a meta strategy was trolling people on chat to get them banned, while issues with constant stacks doing TK non stop and afk farming bots are still out htere
Last edited by Copy & Cat; Feb 5, 2021 @ 7:14pm
Laati Feb 5, 2021 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Originally posted by Laati:
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.

I can't fully answer that since I'm not on the dev/balancing teams, but community feedback is definitely taken into account.
Even if it is, we certainly don't feel that. We feel the EXACT opposite. I bet most of the community feels the EXACT opposite. And we're losing our patience.

It's mind boggling how this update went through unless if you deliberately ignore community feedback. And I hope, I really hope that's not true. But there is NO evidence to the contrary.
Last edited by Laati; Feb 5, 2021 @ 8:25pm
catharsis Feb 5, 2021 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by UbiYubble:
Originally posted by Laati:
I've got a genuine question.

There was backlash about the Kali changes even before it got added in.

So why was it added in the first place when you got a majority saying "No, this change isn't good" BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS ADDED.

I can't fully answer that since I'm not on the dev/balancing teams, but community feedback is definitely taken into account.

I'm sure you guys do listen to community feedback for the most part. But regarding this specific change to Kali, there was an overwhelmingly amount of negative feedback regarding the change on various social platforms. That being here on the forums, Ubisoft forums, Reddit, Youtube, and many others, yet the change still went through? You seriously can't blame us for thinking that they weren't listening to community feedback on this change, because in this particular case it was very clearly ignored.
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Date Posted: Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:12pm
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